How could Hatton absolve Kostya Kzu clean Ponches so well ?

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  1. sweetray

    sweetray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How could Hatton absolve Kostya Kzu clean Punches so well and be
    KO by a single punch from Mayweather who has less power punch ?
     
  2. TFFP

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    Kostya was taking a battering on the inside, thus had lost a lot of snap in his punches. He was very tired indeed

    Mayweather was as fresh as a daisy, and the reverse was true for Hatton. Also, the underrated factors of not seeing the shot coming (hand speed), and how clean the shot is play a part

    Hope this helps
     
  3. Larson

    Larson Paenkhay Full Member

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    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......... PBF in his prime
    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......... Tszyu 36 hmmmmmmmmmmm

    Did you see that hook by PBF? It was pretty sweet
     
  4. TFFP

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    The last thing that goes is a punch...

    That wasn't a factor
     
  5. Larson

    Larson Paenkhay Full Member

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    Yes but timing, reflexes, stamina, speed. agility, etc. do
     
  6. TFFP

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    I'm not talking about the fight itself, I'm talking about why Hatton took Tszyu's punches, when he punches much harder than Mayweather. That is what the thread is about

    There are a number of reasons. Tszyu's punches are much more predictable, hence Hatton saw them coming. This makes a massive difference, as any fighter would know. Mayweather caught him off guard, due to superior hand speed. Basically, it was a better shot than anything Tszyu landed, and there is more to the power of a shot than a KO percentage
     
  7. BodyBlaster

    BodyBlaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I disagree.
    Power has a lot to do with speed and reflex, and so when that goes, obviously the power will diminish.
    ****, Kevin McBride took Tysons shots.

    Anyway, the reason Hatton took clean shots, as Tszyu was delivering them going backwards, so not getting his bodyweight behind his shots.
     
  8. TFFP

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    Give over, Tszyu was no way near as shot as Tyson. That is a ridiculous comparison

    I would be very shocked if Tszyu had less raw power than Mayweather, aged 36 or not

    As you rightly say, timing and speed play a part, and for whatever reason Tszyu wasn't able to catch Hatton as regularly. Tszyu folded against the pressure fighter, Mayweather excelled
     
  9. MancMexican

    MancMexican Blood & Guts Forever Full Member

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    Hatton was charging forward and took the punch cleanly right on the chin - in essence he moved into the blow, and then went head first into the turn buckle.

    Plus, the most important fact, he didn't see it. Punches boxers dont see coming always have a bigger effect.

    Zoo never landed a shot like that on Hatton
     
  10. TFFP

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    Exactly, as I said

    Anybody that's ever been in a boxing ring knows they are the worst. It's obvious to say a fighter didn't see a punch coming, otherwise they would have blocked it! But if you can set youself for a split second it helps

    Such was the angle and the speed of the shot, and Hatton's forward movement, it was always lights out

    Tszyu's were straight shots from a tired man, mostly on the backfoot
     
  11. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    hatton is a light welterweight and cannot carry the extra 7 plbs without getting tired
     
  12. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kostya's biggest punches always came at the end of his combos after setting up the space for the huge right hand. Hatton did a great job breaking those attacks so the most punches he ate weren't that big that rocked and knocked f.e. Judah. Wasn't pretty but Hatton did a good job.

    Against Mayweather it was a whole different story. It was Hatton's mistake and Floyd took advantage of it very well. Hatton had to be more agressive after the 6th but with his faster jumping-ins he left himself wide open and was countered with a perfect shot. No one has ever landed that kind of a very well placed very big punch on him and Hatton's body movement towards the punch made the demolition even bigger. And he was jumping in so agressively he just didn't see the punch coming. That's the difference. With Tszyu, he took a few big shots but he was very aware of them and was able to avoid the biggest of Tszyu's bombs. But against a perfect counter shot out of nowhere you just can't do anything. Knockout of the year: Donaire counterpunches Darchinyan with a perfect left hook. It's the same. Hatton just didn't see it coming.
     
  13. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ricky said himself after the Tszyu fight he never truly felt his power because Kostya needs extention on his shots to do damage. The pop on Tszyu's punches come from the snap on the end. But Hatton was smothering him all night, taking off most of the steam on the shots. Though Tszyu did land a few shots here and there; it's not as anytime Kostya lands flush on a opponent they'll automatically show the effects of it, even with him being a murderous puncher.

    A few weeks before Mayweather-Hatton there was an article where Hatton stated Mayweather couldn't hurt him since Tszyu was a bigger puncher than Floyd and he couldn't. I thought that was foolish of Hatton to say after the Collazo scare. That fight should have taught him that speed and timing was just as deadly as pure power. Obviously, it didn't..and it costed him his unbeaten record.
     
  14. lowrider

    lowrider New Member Full Member

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    I don't think it was a single punch from Mayweather that finished Hatton. Sure, it rocked Hatton, but i reckon it was the turnbuckle that finished him. It was like he was hit on top of the head with 2x4. The result wouldn't have been different if he hadn't plunged head first into the corner(he was all but done anyway), but Mayweather would have still had a bit more work to do.
     
  15. lowrider

    lowrider New Member Full Member

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    I felt that Hatton was in different place mentally, in the two fights, once they started .
    Against Kostya, he seemed to be perfectly "in the zone", where nothing was going to stop him.
    I never quite got that feeling at any time, from the moment the Mayweather fight started.
    I don't think Mayweather would've stopped Hatton if he stepped into the ring instead of Tszyu on that night. I say this in no way to dis' Mayweather. I just think that Hatton rose to his potential against Tszyu and was somewhat less against Mayweather.
    Of the three men that entered the ring, Hatton, Mayweather and Cortez, only one excelled on the night.
    Cortez not allowing the fight to play out, when Hatton got inside in th early rounds did Ricky no favours. This may have effected Hatton(mentally). Or maybe it was just his inability to work Mayweather out on the night......who knows?
    What i do know is that Hatton fought a poor tactical fight(i.e. hardly through a body shot that was more than a love tap while tied up on the inside) and seemed to be displaying a sense of being intimidated that i never thought i'd see from him.