How did 190lb Jack Dempsey DESTROY super-heavyweight 240lb Jess Willard?

Any of these guys around now?

Willard could be better now because he would have more guys his own size to develop against. He was brave, took a punch and had incredible
Stamina against Johnson, there would be a lot to work on right there.

 

You are joking right?

People have got ranked by Ring Magazine in recent years, without beating anybody ranked in the top 30.

Add the myriad of sanctioning bodies, and it is easier to get ranked today, than it has been at any time in the past.

 

The problem here is that you are randomly picking guys to do it, without a single piece of information from the real world, to suggest that they would be likely to do it.

The reality is that none of these guys, except Holyfield, beat a world class fighter close to that size.

In the real world Dempsey did it, and nobody has doen it since.

 

well you are going on what ifs,im going with actual film footage,no one can really tell me they are astounded by Willards abilities on film,he looks horrendous ,no defense other than back peddling slapping the on coming aggressive fighters hands away in every fight seen he has his hands completey at hip level no wonder Dempsey pulverized him on top of his 3 year absence..no way does this guy beat any top cruiser or LHW post 60's,any modern HW who wore 4/5 ounce boxing gloves would level him without question.

The only opinion that would be valid here is how much do you think with modern training could he improve and that's just speculation.I would hopwesomeone with such prehistoric abilities would vastly improve,how could they not?Its not a knock on him that's the plain truth,it was his era and like the ones that followed boxers became much more technical and smarter.

 

ahh yes ring Magazine .....:lol99

 

It is clearly a lot harder to get ranked by Ring Magazine, than any of the sanctioning bodies.

If we include them, he gets ranked by one of them, just for staying away from the others!

 

In the real world today, they don't maneuver old, sloppy farmhands into titles...

Oh, Valuev. OK, maybe they do.

 

Anyone who actually follows this absurd publication need there head examined,i don't have time to waste whatso many things that make this Mag a joke.i'll just say it doesn't even have Tyson who was the youngest champ ever which auto matically makes him one of the most relevant in its top 50 BEST fighters of all time...yet Marciano is listed as 12?Louis at 4 and Greb at 5?They even have foreman in there,who did he beat?Olf frazier and glass chin Moorer?He ewasnt even a good boxer technically he just had a chin and hit hard,with a decent jab.

 

My God! We were talking about "somebody the size of" Vitali Klitchko not V.K himself...

Don't you think a sub 200lb guy needs the most lethal gloves he can get hold of if he's taking on a 50lb heavier guy?

Why don't we see a good or even great sub 200lb fighter beat even the poorest 6'6 240 pounder out there anymore?

 

I don’t want you to think that I don’t have grave reservations about Ring Magazine, but surely you would agree that their rankings are better than any of the sanctioning bodies?