How did Floyd Mayweather Jr. beat Juan Manuel Marquez?

There must be little no boxers or people who know much about boxing on East Side Boxing. Weight is in question only when a person is physical. Floyd was walking through Marquez'z punches only because they barely landed flush. Even the one incident he was hit square on the chin, Floyd ate that punch. Floyd never "muscled" Marquez. He just beat him up with skill. Floyd should have went on the inside more. Would have been embarrassing but would make the "weighing more" point valid. As because that is based on physically hurting your opponent with your weight as opposed to using outside skills. Floyd rarely uses his weight to beat an opponent. Only Ricky Hatton was out muscled by Floyd. That was because Floyd had no choice.

 

Floyd knew all along he can beat Marquez by fighting this little guy in his weight division, who as a newbie has yet to prove if he still carries the same power and quickness at welter. Much worst that Money Floyd bloated even more to assure the huge advantage, so why wonder for the easy victory against JMM. Skill and slickness is always given for Floyd as an advantage, but I think Marquez can par to it, absolutely but not the size. If only they fought at 130 0r 135 lbs.

 

The same way he beat any other fighter, with skill. Pacquiao is also smaller than Mayweather, but you don't beat world class boxers with size. You can use your size though like Mike Tyson did or the Klits do now to dominate. Size and reach is just physical gifts if you use them, just like any other natural athletic talents you could have, but tall guys still got to make weight etc.
Many people try to discredit Floyd by using the size argument, but Manny is also a small welter so if Floyd beats him is it also due to his size, and if it is why should he even bother fighting him...?

 

*Floyd vs Marquez at 130 would be a great fight. Floyd would win, but it would be far closer and more exciting than the welterweight mismatch

 

Size didn't help Mayweather, because he isn't a physical fighter, but it hugely affected Marquez. It's rare to see such a bad performance from a great fighter, so close to his prime. He was slow on his feet and his body and hands were similar.

It was a physical mismatch but it wasn't Floyd's size which made the difference.

 

marquez called out floyd

floyd wanted a comeback

at 130 maybe 3 years ago would be close , but floyd would still win

 

I don't know...I think Marquez has a great chance at 130lbs.

 

Generally, guys overcome larger guys by being faster and countering, or by getting inside on them etc. Marquez was too sluggish and small at 147 to do the first, and it just wasn't in his nature to do the second.

Don't get me wrong; I think PBF would beat Marquez at any weight, apart from maybe 135. But his victory wasn't that meaningful, because any chance Marquez (who was already at a stylistic disadvantage) had of imposing himself or landing anything disappeared when he was lopsidedly out-weighed, out-reached and out-speeded on fight night, all of which were size-related factors.

 

This is pretty close to how I see it. Yes Marquez was smaller a bit slower, but it didnt play such a huge factor that it was the only reason the fight was that one sided.
Fighters that dominate opponents are often criticised when they win easy. Like you said, look at the way Pac dominated ODLH. Everyone just brushes Oscars performance off to him being drained. Styles make fights, and Pac's ability had something to do with it.

 

75% skill, 25% size.

 

It was a 100% skill. People keep saying that Marquez was affected by going up in weight becasue they want to discredit Floyd but Marquez's speed looked the same to me. But he's never been in there with a guy who has the defensive reflexes and accuracy of Floyd. You've got to remember his prior fight was a classic brawl with Diaz in which Diaz landed a lot of left hooks. How did expect him to look against a master boxer like Floyd. Marquez was already weighing ballooning up to the 140's when he was fighting at 130, so he simply didn't have to cut any weight for the fight with Floyd. He got his ass kicked becasue Floyd is a better fighter.

 

Whoever voted `100% size` are biased & not being completely honest with themselves.

I voted `25% size, 75% skill` because Marquez was unable to hurt Mayweather with the few shots he did get thru due to the natural size but everything FMJ landed & avoided himself was all down to pure 100% skill.

P4p, Mayweather has always been regarded as a better boxer than Marquez, Marquez only does a little better but still loses wide if both are naturally the same size.... end of.

 

Thats becasue Mayweather rolled the punches which took some of the steam off of them. Plus Mayweather has an excellent chin. Some of the few shots that DLH got through at 154 had no effect on him either.

 

:deal

 

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