How did Haney become so powerful in the professional boxing industry?

He did get massively helped by the referee in that fight though.

 

Yeah and Prograis said there was a contractual agreement about rehydration which Devin Haney broke whether that's true or not.

 

Well they pushed him not because of his actual talent, but what they could make people perceive his talent to be. He was on everybody's P4P list from his won over Kambo until his loss to Ryan in some instances. I've seen boxing writers place him as high as fourth P4P after his win over Prograis. He never really deserved those accolades imo but he was marketed so well as being the next Mayweather, as a defensive wizard and silky smooth technician who was supposed to school everybody that people just ate it up even if it wasn't true. Bud doesn't get much backing because he asks for too much money without drawing enough on his own to justify it, Errol got a massive push from PBC to be a big star and he was, but he wasn't supposed to be the next Mayweather, that just wasn't how he was marketed. I mentioned Tank in my post and he is very clearly being marketed as the heir apparent for Mayweather's throne. Norman Jr was very unheralded until the win over Santillan a month or two ago and doesn't really fit into the timeline of Devin's ascension and was sort of just another random TR prospect no-one cared about. Devin started young, got some good experience in Mexico, his dad established connections, he made a name for Devin as a hot prospect when he was still only 20 or so, became known as a good technician with an undefeated record, then all of this was conflated and amped up to get him title shots, refs who let him get off Scott-free with his cheating, and got judges who would give him 10 points whenever he asked them to.

 

Which one I listed 3 lol.

 

You don't get it do you.

Haney rehydrating what he's allowed is not the issue here.

Every fighter bar a tiny minority come in 2/3/4 weight classes higher than they should.

The solution is to have rehydration limits for every fight. At the moment there is no limit, so a fighter can rehydrate to whatever they want.

What we need is more rehydration limits in fights until it becomes normal practice.

 

I personally just assumed that the TV people like Hearn, DAZN and the back ground people who all have very little knowledge of actual boxing but a lot of knowledge about the show business side of things just looked at the Mayweather model.

The brash, African American boxer, everyone is divided on him either tuning in to see him lose or win. Obviously Mayweather should have lost a few and ducked a few but he was a brilliant fighter and could back it up.

With Haney they just believed that he was a prototype to replicate that. Half a dozen more wins or so and suddenly everyone would be tuning in to see him beaten. Obviously Haney isn't on that level. He will retire with multiple losses if he continues fighting at world level and will be stopped a few times. He's about on the level of a prime Malinaggi but the TV people like Hearn the background staff etc didn't realise that.

 

I don't believe a 140lbs fighter can naturally rehydrate 11kg in 1 day within the legally allowed rules.

 

Garcia fight obviously he lost vs Lomachenko too and got the decision.

 

Eddie was singing Devin's praises through the roof before the Ryan loss. Everybody was. Matchroom gave Haney loads of backing before he was embarrassed and lost his 0. The Ryan fight was supposed to be his coming out party and his first big commercially successful PPV to establish him as an American star by beating a fellow American star. Matchroom gave Haney huge purses for fighting the likes of Linares and Abdullaev, put him on PPV in a big stadium in San Fran against Prograis, Devin and his dad got a TR contract to land the Kambo fight for all the belts and then got the Loma PPV where he benefitted from corrupt judging. The WBC emailed their belt to him, even let him keep it after the Ryan loss despite saying it would go vacant if that happened, and handed him the refs and judges who gave him preferential treatment. He received refs who permit him to hug his opponents to death, to low blow them, and to shove elbows and shoulders in the clinch. MR, TR, & GB all seemed pretty happy to push Haney down everybody's throats. Even PBC let him spar Tank and train at the Mayweather gym. People may have changed their tune after Devin lost but before that they were propping him up and praising him to high Heaven.

 

A side fighter. Why the conspiracies when the establishment benefits more from cashcows larger than Haney like Ryan Garcia. I think Garcia getting caught pissing hot and facing the consequences have blown the entire perception of Haney out of proportion. He was just a typical highly touted A side fighter who benefited from A side advantages, the most common corruption in boxing. I don't think he has any more of a hand than Tank or Ward

The belt was out of the equation the moment Garcia missed weight.

You see I don't even like this guy, I hate the fact the result was overturned, I hate the fact he is still champ, i hate that he robbed Lomachenko and I hate his weight bully tactics. Haney is a soyboy for trying to take it to court despite getting what he wanted. But be fr man, had Garcia not missed weight he would've taken Haneys belt and rid us of Devin, but he did, and then failed a drug test. What can we do ?

 

The Prograis fight was in California though and the CSAC does have a rehydration limit where fighters aren't supposed to rehydrate more than 15% of their weight, a rule which Haney broke and Prograis didn't. https://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/39610394/seven-ufc-298-fighters-flagged-rehydration-issue

 

Don't get me started on Peds, they're all on it as far as I'm concerned.

But this issue is relating specifically to rehydration and that's something they all do also.

Rehydration limits should be implemented.

 

That's a target, not a limit. I'm saying we should rehydration limits for every fight, much stricter than what we're talking here.

Even if a fighter at 140 does 5% rehydration, that takes them into the next division, with that being the case why are they at 140 anyway? The reason is because the guys at 147 rehydrate above 154 and so on and so forth.

Rehydration limits, if it's in the next weight class they should be fined.

 

PBC has no say with where he trains or who he spars. I went to Vegas and trained in the Mayweather gym. I went to Los Angeles and trained at the WildCard, Devin and Bill Haney were there when I trained funnily enough.

 

He didn't, you just don't like the guy and blame everything on him, even Ryan Garcia pissing hot, lol.