How did Hearns come back so quickly after Leonard 1 fight

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  1. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No.

    One may call Tommy chinny, skinny-legged, bad balance, but he proved his guts time after time. Bullsh/t post.
     
  2. JohnThomas1

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    If you dig deeper you'll find the true postponement and eventual cancellation of Hearns - Hagler to be much different. Both Hagler and Hearns confirmed the fight was still on before Arum come straight over the top of them saying it was off. There was a legal injunction over Arum and the broadcast rights. Hearns was used as a pawn more or less.

    Even if one believed Hearns and Steward (Steward must more so) postponed due to the theory Hearns wasn't ready so what? It would have certainly been a great decision. Hearns was in no way shape or form ready for top middleweight bouts. He could still make Welterweight if need be.

    Hearns wasn't afraid to fight anyone as he proved throughout his long and illustrated career. Calling Hearns and SRL pussies is wow really.
     
  3. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But you forget that Hearns fought mike colbert as early as 78 and was a mmiddlewight before Hagler was even champion.
     
  4. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But not before Hagler fought at middleweight, which was my point about Duran. I am glad you are paying attention. Of all the things I have said, that is one things people seem to remember, even though it has become somewhat of a joke. But it is significant. Fighting at a weight first eliminates the excuse that someone that person is too small to fight there. And Duran won a title at 154, but after Hearns did. Not too long after 6 months later. Actually Hearns and Duran won the weight titles close enough. Duran won welt. in June 1980, Hearns is August, 1980. 154 Hearns won his in Dec. 1982 and Duran in June of 1983. Middleweight Oct. 1987 for Hearns,, Feb. 1989 for Duran.
     
  5. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That is a suprising comment to say about them. I don't think there was anything scared about any of the fab 4. They wouldn't be in that era if they were. What I find interesting about the Hagler and the pinky comment, Mike McCallum later mentioned that in criticizing Hagler when he saw him at the Hall of Fame events in Upstate New York. He told Hagler if you respect me you would have fought me, although Mike was off a little. By the time Marvin last fought, Mike had not fought for the title yet against Kalambay. Mike was number one contender to Mannion's title not Hagler's, who fought on the same card at Madison Square Garden in October, 1984.
     
  6. 80s champs

    80s champs Active Member Full Member

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    I think when Hearns lost the war to Hagler with the broken hand and came back the following year to KO undefeated James Shuler in the first round was impressive as well.
     
  7. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's not unique.

    He was 23 years old.

    It was normal back then for fighters to get back on the horse.

    Saad Muhammad, for example, took a gracious beating against Braxton, then returned 4 months later against Pete McIntyre.
     
  8. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah. I liked Davison, but he lacked fire. He had a great chin so I think Tommy would have won a decision.
     
  9. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're seriously overrating Davison

    He had some good results in 79-80 and deserved a title shot but blew it against Robbie Epps.

    He was best when a guy came at him hard and forced him to fight a la Curtis Parker and Wilford Sypion.

    If Hearns boxes he easily decisions Davison.
     
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  10. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    He was durable for sure. Used to sleepwalk a lot tho, often in a boxing ring lol
     
  11. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Hearns came back fast because he was very young, 22, he moved up to a more natural weight, 154 and he was highly motivated. He did struggle a bit as he got used to the weight but there is little doubt that his best career weight was 154, from Benitez to Duran.
     
  12. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Hearns problem was when he finally got used to 154 and started to knock guys out like he did at welterweight he made another move up. I think had he stayed at middleweight longer he might have got the punch there like at 154, but at that point after Hagler, he was looking for 4 or 5 titles in the weight division thing. But he was doing it legit. Leonard was doing that Lalonde bs of 2 titles in one night so he didn't have to struggle like Hearns did. Hearns really won his titles, Ray did not. You cannot win two titles in one night at two weights. The concept does not work. He won them, but it cannot be done. And he got Lalonde to fight at 168 were neither guy fought or was ranked,, and then Lalonde is weakened at 175 his championship weight. So both titles are in question.
     
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  13. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Infamous Pinky....per the Washington Post:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...e71bbcc/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.d122f27690c7


    "Hearns' Pinky Causes Thumbs Down on May 24 Hagler Fight"

    By ron Rosen
    May 6, 1982
    The Thomas Hearns-Marvin Hagler fight: delayed indefinitely. And so, by extension, Sugar Ray Leonard versus the winner?

    The doctors in Detroit said yesterday it would be three to 10 days before Hearns could resume sparring for the bout in Windsor. So, in New York, Bob Arum took promoter's license to make it three times 10, saying, "Thomas was examined by three physicians in Detroit today and they all agreed that he cannot resume sparring for at least 30 days." And to call off the show until who knows when.

    Hearns' doctor termed the injury to pinky of right hand a severe sprain, "where it's almost impossible for him to make a fist." Hagler's doctor examined it and ventured, "with proper padding, the man can train and can fight on the 24th."

    Hagler's camp reckoned there was a shadow bigger than a man's hand behind the postponement--and, sure enough, came word from Los Angeles that a federal judge had granted Home Box Office a preliminary injunction to prevent Arum and SelecTV, copromoters, from diluting its live broadcast rights. "When they decide who has the authority to run the fight on TV," said Goody Petronelli, a Hagler handler, "maybe we'll go somewhere."

    Now hear Hearns declare he won't fight unless physically prepared, regardless of pressure from Hagler's camp: "I'm the one that's hurting, not them . . . I think all they are looking for is the money. I'm looking out for my health" . . .
     
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