How did Lomachenko lose to Teofimo Lopez and Devin Haney

Dynamicpuncher · Apr 22, 2024

IronMaster said: ↑

No, Lopez did nothing from rounds 6 to 11, Lomachenko schooled him after a slow start. And there was one early round that could have been given to Loma. It was a close fight.
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Lomachenko did nothing from round 1 to 6.....and lost round 12 convincingly.

Lomachenko threw a grand total of 58 punches in 6 rounds if you honestly believe Lomachenko deserved a decision after that workrate I'm at lost for words.

It was a clear win 8-4 or 7-5 Lopez and Lomachenko only has himself to blame. You can't fight like a sparring partner for half the fight and expect to win a championship fight.

PS Lopez threw twice as many punches as Lomachenko and outlanded him in 8 out of the 12 rounds. With Lomachenko only out landing Lopez in 3 rounds.

iceferg · Apr 22, 2024

I think Lomachenko beat Lopez if you score it as a 36 minute fight but as rounds go he probably let too many early ones slip. Against Haney he won 8-4 Loma's rounds were most big Haney shoe shined a few. Complete robbery he didn't win it.

PIPO23 · Apr 22, 2024

Loma older the youngens have youth on their side they are bigger and stronger.Loma performance wasn’t that bad considering the disadvantages.This is a young man sport and we have weight classes for a reason.There’s always someone out to take your mantle.Teofimo is a good fighter and good enough to beat Loma convincingy.Teo’s power scared the old bull and was scared to get close early and was cautious.

CST80 · Apr 22, 2024

He didn't lose to Haney, no one in their right mind had Loma losing that one, and in the Lopez match he was hampered by an injury, and even then he almost swept the second half when he started actually trying.

steviebruno · Apr 22, 2024

He is overrated.

RingKing · Apr 22, 2024

Flo_Raiden said: ↑

Undersized, age, and a little bit of arrogance. Loma lost clearly against Lopez but he has himself to blame for starting too slowly and letting it slip away. I personally think Loma would have beaten Lopez if they ever fought again.

Loma was definitely robbed against Haney and should have been undisputed. Although it didn’t help that Loma didn’t follow up with finishing the final round strong after being so dominant in the previous rounds.
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Clear and concise explanation. Exactly what I was going to say but not so eloquently.

Chitown · Apr 22, 2024

Do people not realize how small Loma is? Hes one of the smallest LWs weve ever seen he never even belonged at 135 w/ weight bullies there and has had many surgeries in recent years. He got robbed against Haney, had him hurt multiple times and won most of the 2nd half against Teo after the slow start.

The optics of seeing Loma in there with Haney, Teo and Jamaine was hilarious. They looked 2-3 weight classes bigger than him and easily had double digit lbs on him.

lobk · Apr 22, 2024

Size and Trex arm. There is only so much a smaller man can do.

Hanz Cholo · Apr 22, 2024

Hubris to compete in the light weight division
He is too small for those guys.

hoopsman · Apr 22, 2024

Serge said: ↑

He should only have one loss

Brazen corruption against Salido and Haney against opponents who outweighed him by 11lbs and 20lbs respectively

Fighting at a weight class he doesn't belong at and one which is only his third weight class because he turned pro at nearly 26. Had he turned pro in his late teens or at 20-21 it would be at least his sixth weight class with same day weigh ins and if he was a weight bully or a massive weight bully it would be even more than his sixth. He's completely maxed out at 135 and tiny for the weight. Age also

Teofimo is actually a very talented and physically gifted fighter, was way bigger and heavier than Loma, and was a murderous puncher at 135. The hardest puncher at the weight at the time. Let's not forget his power even at 140 sent huge 140 pounder Josh Taylor into his shell

Teofimo

'He’s better off at 130 or 126. “I think that 135 is too heavy for him. I think that he’s too sluggish at 135. But let’s see, man. Let’s see what this whole one-year rest does for him.

“I’m a big 135 pounder. I can be fighting at 140 right now. I’m very comfortable at this weight. Everything that this man does do that they say, he’s decreasing. I’m not even in my prime yet and I’m out here just outdoing guys. He’s on his way out, and it’s showing. Your body can only take so much damage, and I guarantee you we’re going to put some damage on this man.”

“He’s on the way out of the sport and 135 is just too big ,” the Honduran-American said.

Lomachenko, 32, started his career in 2013 as a 126-pounder. Lopez, 23, has fought at 135 since he turned pro in 2016.

''I think that he's on his way out. I really do believe that and 135 is just too much of a big weight class for him''

''If you look at the Luke Campbell fight, you can see there is just a lot of wear-and-tear on his body.

“I look at it like this—maybe this whole COVID-19 year helped him out. Maybe he needed it. That way he can probably at least hang in there a little bit with me. It’s going to be a great fight. I just look at the facts. You see a fighter who has gone up in weight class. Sometimes they go up too much where their body isn’t used to it, or the weight class is too big for them.''

“This man has had over 400 fights. I have over 150 fights. I’m 23. I’m going to tell you this, when I get to camp, oh man, my body aches sometimes. If I’m 23 and dealing with stuff at this age, I can only imagine what he must be going through at 32 with over 400 fights.”

''I'm not going to have a 126 pounder come out here and try and take over on me. I'm a big guy''

“A lot of people talk very highly about him. But if you look at it, there were so many mistakes he made against Luke Campbell. Loma tries too hard to make everybody think he can still do it, even though he’s 32 years old.

Interviewer: ''Lomachenko is small for the weight class''

Teofimo: ''Very!''

''No 126 pounder is beating my son'' --Teofimo Lopez Sr.

Day of the weigh in

Lopez looking like a sunken-eyed cadaver slurring his words, Loma looking the picture of health. Loma looked healthy on the scales down at 126 for goodness sake

''Skinny Fimo now, but then you get the monster tomorrow''

''By tomorrow I'm going to look like a different man. A whole new man''

--Teofimo Lopez

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Shakur Stevenson

Interviewer: ''You saw Loma recently, how was that?''

Shakur: ''Yeah I seen him. He looked small. That's what I really was thinking. He's tiny for 135, I just moved up and I felt way bigger than Lomachenko''

Interviewer: ''He's like a natural featherweight''

Shakur: ''I think he should go back down. I think he'd be a lot better at 130''

"Devin is too big. Like, I think the size ... don't get me wrong, Lomachenko can fight. Devin is way out of his weight class. He's going to make 35 and then shoot up to 150 or 160 (actually 160) nive times out of 10, and Lomachenko is going to be 137 or 138, so it's just not even fair to me."

“I think he [Devin Haney] smokes Lomachenko.

“I didn’t like the way he looked against Ortiz. I saw him in the gym two or three weeks ago, he looked like a 126lb fighter, he doesn’t look like a 135lb fighter.

“I think Dev is too long and tall.”

Loma is the one who put in all the hard work winning three belts individually on the road in a division full of giants he doesn't belong in, Teofimo and Haney were just massive weight bullies who won them or three of them in one fell-swoop against fighters they were way bigger than

I said long ago that let's see Teofimo and Haney try to become undisputed in their third weight class or win three belts individually in their third one like Loma did and, as said, 135 is only Loma's third weight class because he turned pro at nearly 26 not in his teens or early 20s. And both Teofimo and Haney were gigantic weight bullies in their first weight class and would be way bigger at 147 than Loma is at 135. In fact, Haney would have to move up to like 168 to be giving away the kind of physical advantages Loma is at 135 and even higher to be giving away the kind of reach he is and that's with what Haney weighs in the ring now. Teofimo would likely have to move up to 160

But what happened. Teofimo failed at the making the first defence mark at his first weight class, and one he was huge at. Sure he beat Josh Taylor in his second weight class which was a really good win but he should have lost to both Sandor Martin and Jermaine Ortiz at his second weight class

And Haney lost in spectacular fashion in just his second fight at his second weight, a weight class he is absolutely massive for and he should have2 losses, to Loma and Garcia

How do you think Teofimo and Haney fare up at 147 trying to win three belts individually up there? Super Boots is the power punching explosive athletic phenom at 147 that Teofimo was at 135 only far less proven, how many rounds do either Teofimo or Haney last against him? 1 or 2?

Loma should be the current undisputed champ in his third weight class after getting robbed by the three home judges against a 20lb heavier, near six inch longer reach gigantic weight bully in their backyard who had a 36 hour weigh in to rehydrate in a fight between the smallest 135 pounder vs the biggest one ever

Like I keep saying, these massive weight bullies look great when they're beating up on leprechauns they're much bigger than in their backyard on a deck heavily stacked in their favour but it's a different ballgame when they move up in weight and start fighting world champions and legit punchers their own size, bigger or much bigger.
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Don't bother, Serge.

By posting as much, you're assuming a measure of intellect and impartiality that is very much lacking in the usual ESB hacks who opine on Lomachenko.

oldcanvasback · Apr 22, 2024

MorvidusStyle said: ↑

Too far out of his natural weight class. Check out the face-offs and it looks like he's lining up against the wrong fighter on the card.
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Every Loma face off at 135 is like the Pac-Margo face off - ridiculous size discrepancy

vast · Apr 22, 2024

Thunderstorm said: ↑

Lopez and haney later went to lose to fighters who were nowhere as good as lomachenko and they lost pretty bad ….. how is this possible was lomechenko overrated ? can someone explain
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Well, by all accounts by serious people, he beat Haney. He should have had a draw with Lopez but the judges, especially the woman judge, was heavily biased to Lopez, who was suppose to be the next big thing in American boxing.

Serge · Apr 22, 2024

hoopsman said: ↑

Don't bother, Serge.

By posting as much, you're assuming a measure of intellect and impartiality that is very much lacking in the usual ESB hacks who opine on Lomachenko.
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Serge · Apr 22, 2024

And let's not forget that Loma never got a chance to avenge any of his losses, two of which should be wins, all of which came against massive weight bullies who weighed at least two divisions more than him, or four in Haney's case, twi of which in his opponent's backyard with two home refs and six home judges, and the other was essentially a home match for his opponent when you have a Ukrainian fighting a Mexican in Texas with the most corrupt ref in the game whose palms had clearly been greased by someone they shouldn't have in order to ensure Salido got the win.

Imagine ducking rematches against a fighter you weigh 2-4 divisions more than knowing it will be in your backyard or country again or on at worst on neutral soil with home refs and judges again in Haney and Teifimo's case.

Both Loma's fights against Haney and Teofimo were for undisputed but both refs and all six judges came from Haney and Teifimo's backyard/country which only ever happens in one country in the world and is practically the norm over there but it literally never happens anywhere else in the world for world title fights between a hone and away fighter, let alone for undisputed. Hence why foreigners keep getting robbed blind over there on a seemingly almost weekly basis and we sit their in disbelief that they keep doing it time and time and time and time again.

Mordechai · Apr 22, 2024

It was naive of loma to think that he would get a Fair shake.
He started way to late against Lopez and he didn't finish strong the last round against haney because he rightly thought he clearly won, but if he had a good manager he would know that they will always try to rob him against an American fighter so he should always finish really strong and go for the ko to clearly hurt his opponents in the last rounds, but he always lets the door open for a possible robbery.
You will see the same against kabasos. He will be behind on all scorecards from the beginning with at least two rounds

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