How did Mike Tyson get so famous?

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  1. BoxerFan89

    BoxerFan89 Active Member Full Member

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    Foreman was more powerful than Tyson, Holyfield testified that.
     
  2. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yet your hero Tinkerbell didn't have the ***** to get in the ring with pensioner Foreman.... :rofl
     
  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    In a way, every heavyweight's popularity (or lack thereof) is a reaction to the previous champ(s)...

    Holmes was seen as a lackluster Ali-clone. Yes, despite of how highly he is ranked here, that was the perception then. Spinks was merely a placeholder. Tyson provided the exact opposite... Entertainment.
     
  4. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Interesting.

    I believe Holyfield also got similar treatment coming after the Tyson era.

    And the Klitsckos after the Lewis era.
     
  5. uncletermite

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    "I cant definatlively say foreman hits harder than Tyson because I used lateral movement with Tyson" E.Holyfield

    And Foreman fought the 205/210 holy not the bigger version.
     
  6. uncletermite

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    "I didn't sighn the contract with king had presented me" G.foreman


    Meanwhile your hero Valuev fled from vitali...:lol:


    "Valuev is a chicken" V.klitchko :yep
     
  7. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Making quotes up again I see.... :rofl:rofl
     
  8. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    DEFINATLIVELY??????? If you're going to make quotes up from a fighter at least spell the fcuking words right...... :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  9. Wass1985

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    While we were eating, Benton said, "Bobby, what's up with Foreman and Tyson, how come they're not fighting each other on the 16th? Isn't that the fight that King was trying to make?" He said, "Georgie, You'll never believe this but, ****in' Tyson is scared **** less of Foreman and wants no part of him. I was there when Don was trying to make the fight. He was telling Tyson that Foreman represented huge money, plus he was old and slow and would be no problem. Tyson got up and screamed at King saying, 'I'm not fight in' that ****in' animal, if you love the mother****er so much, you fight him!'"

    Goodman stated that Tyson said Foreman was much better than people thought, and was a dangerous fight for any of the top heavyweights. Goodman proceeded to explain how Tyson was calling Foreman a big con man, and explained that the grandpop act was just a front. He said Tyson saw Foreman as trying to set up the boxing world into thinking he was a pushover, knowing that he really wasn't. Tyson said Foreman was a wolf in sheep's clothing. Goodman continued to say that after seeing Tyson's response to King trying to push him into a fight with Foreman, he had no doubt that Tyson had fear of Foreman. He also said that from that point on, he felt that if Foreman and Tyson ever fought, Foreman would knock Tyson out!

    Throughout the lunch Goodman, Duva, Benton, and myself shared stories and thoughts on the fight game. Out of the blue Goodman said, "Oh I remember why else Tyson wanted no parts of Foreman. He said that King had found out from Steve Lott that Tyson and Cus D'Amato used to watch the Frazier-Foreman fight over and over." He continued saying that Tyson loved that fight because he was awed by Foreman's power and Frazier's toughness and how he kept getting up after every knockdown. He also said that Lott told King that Cus sat alongside Tyson saying, "It's suicide against Foreman if you're short and fight a swarming attacking style like Marciano or Frazier," never figuring that Foreman could be a possible Tyson opponent down the road. He said that Cus said the only fighters who had a chance against Foreman were, tall rangy fighters who could fight him from a distance while moving away from him, and no way any swarmer could beat Foreman by going to him.

    Those are the words of the man who actually had a hand in trying to make the Foreman-Tyson fight, and was in the room when the negotiations broke down. Over the years, I've talked to many people who were involved with Tyson and Foreman and they all verify the story, every one of them. I have also talked to people who were involved with promoting Foreman, including Ron Weathers who promoted a few of Foreman's comeback fights. He told me the same story. The fight didn't happen because of Tyson being fearful of losing to George. Bob Arum also said that he dreamed of making Foreman-Tyson. He said it would be huge money and that Foreman would stop Tyson easier than he did Frazier. This is something Arum often repeated to the press. I have also heard this from George's brother Roy who was his business manager. I co-hosted a boxing show with Roy in Atlantic City for a little less than two months and this was a regular topic when discussing Tyson. Anyone who covered boxing at the time or knew any of the involved parties knew of this. It's not breaking news.