How did Mosley, Cotto, and GGG withstand Canelo’s punches better than Kovalev?

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  1. From.Russia

    From.Russia Boxing Addict Full Member

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    + he didnt care, you dont smile all the time like a ****** before the fight of your life.
     
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  2. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Levels.

    Cotto is a step shy of being an ATG and actually had a very good chin, and much better defense.

    Kovalev has always looked somewhat soft and specially now he’s shot, and the fact that Canelo is carrying some power up. P4P, MW Canelo hits harder than LHW Canelo, but p4p cotto is a much better fighter.

    As I said, FW, LW, WW and MW are usually the most stacked divisions, just by sheer number of participants. So a LW moving up to WW is moving up to fight a bigger guy who’s the same level of opposition at LW or usually better, so it’s double the challenge.

    A MW moving up to LHW is usually giving up size but fighting a lower level opposition.

    Of course there’s exceptions.
     
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  3. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, it wasn't a dive. Kovalev just has a really glass jaw. He was badly hurt and stopped by feather-fisted Andre Ward, was KTFOed by feather-fisted Eleider Alvarez.
     
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  4. Bogotazo

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    Cotto was able to anticipate and see everything coming. Kovalev gassed, and when he was hurt in that instance, had no notion of the follow up right hand coming.
     
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  5. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This still amazes me. GGG has a chin of steel and I think that punch would have KO’d Kovalev as well.
     
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  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    If Cotto was more skilled, why did he lose 116-112? In non-controversial fashion. Yet on most everyone's scorecards Kovalev was well up going into the 11th?
     
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  7. boxerfan13

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    Calling this a dive is by far the most idiotic thing Ive read on this forum in a while.
     
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  8. NaiKoN

    NaiKoN M Power! Full Member

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    Also close to being shot plus a smaller size. IMHO of course.
     
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  9. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    G jabbed in both fights like he did with lemmy Cotto was as fast or faster than Canelo
     
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  10. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    See the pattern? The last prime fighters Canelo fought was Liam Smith and Austin Trout.
     
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  11. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    Andre Ward stated Canelo was facing Kovalev, not the Krusher. Maybe he saw a mixture of things and decided to worded in general. Regardless, what a brutal KO.
     
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  12. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Every fighter and fight is different.

    Always been whispers about Kovalev's punch resistance going back to his absolute peak, let alone post-prime. Some take it better than others.
     
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  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Simple. Kov is close to being shot to bits alcoholic and Clenelo is a different animal to Canelo for obvious reason
     
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  14. NaiKoN

    NaiKoN M Power! Full Member

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    Agree. Next one is a cruiser weight, as I’ve told there is Shumenov and some fighter with super champ belt. Shumenov is far from being the greatest plus I would say quite old now.
     
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  15. greenhornet

    greenhornet Boxing Addict Full Member

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    mw canelo hits harder than lhw? yet mw canelo never stopped anyone.
     
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