How did Oscar lost to Pacquiao?

I do agree with this. Partly this, but mainly - unfortunately - the fact that Oscar was in horrible physical condition.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehydration#Signs_and_symptoms

There's no doubt that dehydration affects your cognitive function, but seeing as how you've probably never been dehydrated or cut weight for anything I can understand your ignorance. I'm not bagging on Pacquiao or anything, I'm just pointing out that spud's point in that case is correct. Could you be any more defensive?

 

I laid out the facts. What part don't you understand? I didn't say it.

Hoya fought Forbes at 150 lbs only 7 months before that. He was accustomed to the weight even months before he fought Pac. Your explanation is what was reverberated throughout various forums from Pac haters and you are just repeating it - like a loud speaker. Accept it.

 

On your poll, a mixture of 1, 2 and 3. It's not a clear cut case I think.

 

Im not sating that it is the sole reason he won but one of the many why.

 

To attribute Oscar De La Hoya losing to Manny Pacquiao in a boxing match because he might not have been able to "think properly" is ludicrous. Ludicrous. :nut

 

See look, you're so quick to put that shield up you're completely missing the point. I actually can't believe that I'm on spud's side in an argument

As incomprehensible as this is, that is exactly what I've been saying. There's no debating that Oscar was in poor condition due to cutting weight... And certainly it is possible he was going through a lot of these symptoms. Why is that ludicrous? Not having an intact mental game in a boxing match seems like a big minus to me.

 

Ludicrous.

De La Hoya was perfectly lucid and articulate that night. He was very obviously in full grasp of his mental faculties. He lost because he was physically depleted and because he fought an excellent opponent.

You should really just leave it at that.

"couldn't think properly" -

 

The reason for the loss was physical. Oscar was physically depleted, and he fought a fast, busy, skilled, driven opponent. Those two ingredients = a bad loss.

Why not leave it at that, rather than trying to come up with some more excuses, especially one which Oscar himself has never put forward, and which sounds ridiculous???

 

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I'm not giving that as an excuse for Hoya. You're reading **** that isn't there. I'm saying that spud was right in that your mental faculties are different when dehydrated. And that it can factor into how a boxing match plays out. That is all. Really, no, that's it.

 

There's still a big difference between 150 and 147. 3lbs is a lot to take off when you are a natural light-middleweight and already struggling to make 150. He then somehow made 145 so he can't have been in good condition really. He was also not rehydrated after the weigh-in, and was only rehydrated in his dressing room via IV sometime between the Fight Night weigh-in and the beginning on the bout.

 

you can say what you wants about oscar's physical condition that night but he came up against an opponent on top of his game. Pac followed the gameplan to the letter and irrespective of de la hoyas condition fought a fantastic fight. Im sure he and roach didnt lay out the blueprint to beat the oscar they did they prepared for the best oscar could bring. Pac even in oscars prime would have caused him a lot of problems

 

Rather than coming up with additional reasons why Oscar lost, I'll happily go along with the reasons which Oscar himself and just about every other sane person on planet Earth knows to be true: he was physically depleted, and he fought a younger, fresher fighter. Simple as that. It's the oldest story in boxing. No need for any more bull**** tacked on to it.

"couldn't think properly" -

 

Peope have to understand the reasons why Roach and Pac took the fight. Roach trained Oscar for his fight against Floyd, and based on what he saw of Oscar in training camp and the night of the fight, he concluded that Pacquiao would easily beat THE VERSION OF OSCAR THAT LOST TO FLOYD BY SD, and the Oscar of the Steve Forbes fight.

And I agree with him. Even the Oscar of the Floyd fight loses to Pac.