How did Parker lose to Joyce ?

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  1. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Our pope is the Holy Spirit Full Member

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    That was Joyce's peak.
     
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  2. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    Wins over: Takam, Ruiz, Hughie(for whats it worth), Chisora, Wilder and Zhang.
    If Parker sucks, then who doesn´t? Name 10 current heavyweights that don´t suck.
     
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  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    C'mon man... you've been following the game long enough to know that good fighters sometimes lose to inferiors. "Off nights", "Styles make fights", "X has Y's #", etc.
     
  4. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is why

    The story of the fight, he was just walked down into oblivion, and didn't have the type of power to dent Joyce
     
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  5. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    There aren’t 10. There are 2 1/2 that are almost complete, or at least can beat all the other hw who suck. And I say suck in the context of the skill level they possess, compared to what a top level hw should be.
     
  6. The one

    The one Member Full Member

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    Heavyweights have always been the less skilled of the weight classes.
     
  7. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Styles and Parker obviously not coming in at his best (he was 10-15 lbs from where he's most effective).
     
  8. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    I’m perfectly aware. I’ve been evaluating hw talent since the 70s. I know what a skilled one looks like and does. These guys are below average in comparison.
     
  9. The one

    The one Member Full Member

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    That is true it’s not that many complete boxers now days.
     
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  10. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Same as how he almost lost to Zhang. Parker couldn't keep the stick and move for 12 rnds and eventually got caught. Difference was Joyce has a gas tank and can apply pressure and punches for 12. Zhang picks and choose. Waiting for that perfect counter. Even when Zhang had Parker hurt he gassed bad trying to finish Parker.

    As others have stated, Parker doesn't do well with pressure fighters.
     
  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Big Joe Joyce beat a lot of very good fighters in the amateurs too. They really struggled with his relentless pressure both physical and mental, high volume, power, and toughness and slow-fast speed too and that was over 3 rounds. Now try dealing with that over 12 rounds from a prime Big Joe. It ain't no joke. It's extremely draining

    Big Joe is the only man in history to stop J-Park. He didn't outpoint him or edge past him he systematically beat him up, broke him down and knocked him senseless

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  12. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That extra weight seemed to be by choice at the time. Think they just got the game plan badly wrong. It was a great win for Joyce
     
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  13. GlassHands

    GlassHands New Member Full Member

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    Because Joyce was better than him on that day. Parker didn't have nearly enough power to keep him honest and was never defensively good enough to avoid being clobbered by Joyce. I've noticed that Parker tends to struggle with bigger more physical fighters such as Whyte, Chisora and Joyce aswell. Of his recent big wins, one was against Wilder who was lighter and fought on the back foot, and the other against Zhang who was bigger but not active enough. The version of Joyce that Parker fought would've always been a VERY tough fight for him.
     
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  14. Shazzar23

    Shazzar23 Demetrius Bivol Full Member

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    Parker is incredibly overrated and very limited, relative to how some people think he is. His victories over two old men have pulled the wool over everyone's eyes. He's been exposed at the elite level. He's no more than a world level gatekeeper.
    He lost because he has no power at all and isn't as slick as he's made out to be. With the damage he's received over his long career, and in particular, Joyce and Zhang, I reckon his chin (one of his best attributes) is cracked too.
     
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  15. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Was a stupid gameplan playing directly into Joyce's strengths.
     
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