How did people come up with the numbers for weight classes?

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  1. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King Full Member

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    124, 147, 168, those all sound like completely random numbers pulled from a hat. Is there some biological/health/fitness reason why such numbers were chosen? Who came up with the original 8 classes and why? Did physicians and nutritionists recommend certain weight ranges?

    Does the average person of certain builds/metabolisms walk around close to certain weights naturally?
     
  2. The G-Man

    The G-Man Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In the opder days the original 8 had different limits.
    During Joe Gans’s time the lightweight limit was 133.
    During Papke’s time the middleweight limit was 158.
     
  3. LoadedGlove

    LoadedGlove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The original 7 weight divisions were not classified in pounds but in stone, ( 14lbs ), and pounds as the Marquis of Queensbury Rules originated in the UK :
    Flyweight - 8 stone
    Bantamweight - 8stone 6lbs
    Featherweight - 9 stone
    Lightweight - 9 stone 9lbs
    Welterweight - 10 stone 7lbs
    Middleweight - 11stone 6lbs
    Heavyweight - Unrestricted

    Light heavyweight was added in the very early 20th Century and classified at 12 stone 7lbs. As we can see, the lighter weights were divided by approximately half a stone up to Lightweight, three quarters of a stone and the more or less a full stone.
     
  4. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    This is a good question.
     
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  5. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    If you look at the weight differences between the main 8 weight classes there is a logic in the way that there are incremental increases between the classes:
    Flyweight (112) to Bantamweight (118) = 6 pounds
    Bantamweight (118) to Featherweight (126) = 8 pounds
    Featherweight (126) to Lightweight (135) = 9 pounds
    Lightweight (135) to Welterweight (147) = 12 pounds
    Welterweight (147) to Middleweight (160) = 13 pounds
    Middleweight (160) to Light Heavyweight (175) = 15 pounds
    When they added Cruiserweight (190) they kept the original weight gap between Light Heavy and Cruiser as only 15 pounds which breaks that pattern but then they upped the limit to 200, which makes more sense to me.
     
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  6. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    It's all to do with the military height guidelines.....apparently.

    Let's not forget that it would be impossible for Lewis or Wlad to exist as they did in the 1950's.....this has nothing to do with them being far to big for Marciano however and is no way being used as a cop out.
     
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  7. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King Full Member

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    Yeah I had a suspicion it might have to do with the outdated military height to weight ratio. That's obviously invalid nowadays, I think it said 6'4 guys should be 190.
     
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  8. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    As others said the weight limits all changed about a lot
     
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