How did the fighters of before do it ???

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Doesn't look any slower to me...

 

Nobody in the past is toughter than people today, simply because they lived in the past.

Fighters in the past had to train differently because it was a different sport and they had to constantly be fighting to make money. Not to mention they also had PEDs but no one gave a damn back then.

If you moved the rounds back to 15, got smaller gloves, and rolled back officiating, you would see people today in better shape than the people in the past and maybe reemergence of past styles that have fallen out of favor as the sport has evolved.

 

Pretty sure there are some parts of the world still stuck in the 'olden days',

 

I heard a great saying when it concerns today's sports ..We are living in such a mom age..I mean look at how boxers are quick to retire citing health yet the people that did it before them were better conditioned fought longer and were a hell of allot tougher !!

 

YOu might say the things to make the sport "safer" increased padding in gloves, made it more dangerous, because it allowed people to take prolonged punishment instead of simply being knocked out.

As for the conditioning aspect, you don't know if they were better conditioned, simply because people now don't have to train to fight as long, doesn't mean if they had to fight that long they couldn't do it.

As for tougher that is subjective, but the there is a reason for the term "punch-drunk" and it is no secret that a lot of boxers for the old day would still end up broke or mentally "different" from what they were before hand.

 

Well, if you go by any sport where that sort of thing can be measured accurately (running, weight lifting, cycling etc.) it's clear that modern athletes are leaps and bounds ahead of the guys from 30-40 years ago. It would be strange if that wasn't the case in boxing as well.

 

It works for people who use it, i mean look at Mayweather, Pacquiao Marquez, Hopkins at 47 has better conditioning than the heavytweights, also margarito had crazy stamina but all these boxers work their asses off in training camp and i think they could go 15 rounds comfortably, maybe not Hopkins but once again the guy is 47

 

With regards to conditioning ,I could just look at some of these fighters today and see their not in great condition ..How many fighters today can fight the full rd ? How many people do you hear that gas out in the later rds ..Its obvious conditioning has taken a step backwards as well as skill !

Too many short cuts and too many weight divisions is the main reason for all this ..

And fighters of today end up broke as well ,this is why faded legends are still active ..That much hasn't changed with boxing ..

 

That's a very interesting possibility, and not a point typically made.

Is it in fact possible that shorter fights, and the modern trend for refs to interfere more (with clinches & such & stopping fights earlier,) let fighters train less hard. or have a less aggressive attitude?

 

Neither skill nor conditioning have taken a back seat or regressed. the game has changed as far as rule set, officiating, equipment, and people do what they need to succeed in the current sport. That being said the fighters of today that are great could compete in any era of the fight game condition wise, because they are at a higher level in terms of training knowlege now they they were in the past.

Too much ridiculous glorifying of the past in this thread.

 

They probably juiced back then aswell.

 

performance enhancers are a modern development breh

 

Yes folks are soft today.

 

Honestly, the film in particular that I gave you is not the best example because one fighter is clearly done, but in their other fights, they went the distance, but Robinson is called the greatest for a reason.

All I know is what I see on the screen which is one opponent using aggressive defense while throwing solid punches, and another fighter using his legs and hard, sharp, fast combination punching to keep his larger opponent off of him who's intent is to get him against the ropes.

I haven't seen that quality of fight. Look at Cotto vs Mayweather for instance.

Cotto started to fade after round 9 in my opinion, and his offense became one dimensional and he was increasingly easier to hit for Mayweather as the rounds went on.

In this film I see an intelligent in fighter, throwing his jab, moving his head, and knowing where to place punches, and I also see a mobile, quick, sharp, excellent at knowing when to throw punches, and a guy that throws accurate combinations with a high degree of punching power.

With that said, rarely do I see fighters that meet these characteristics, and I can't remember the last time they shared the same ring.

 

Really I can count on 2 hands where fighters have horrible foot work ..There was recently an interview with Morales and he noticed how boxers today don't know how to properly put punches together .I'm sure he's not crazy ..And most fighters today would not be successful in most era's ! You really think before any of this PED nonsenes the likes of Pavlik (not saying he is was on anything )or Berto could have competed in the 70' or 80' ?..If they were at higher levels of training then there would be better boxers ,as it stands now you only have a handful of elite boxers !