How did the Haye vs Ruiz fight turn out for those of us who didn't catch it?

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  1. Pound4poundx

    Pound4poundx Well-Known Member Full Member

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    We didn't catch the fight in Montreal. Could someone explain to me what all of the "Haye is dirty" stuff is all about? Was this a legitimate beat down or is this controversial?
     
  2. BritInvasion

    BritInvasion keepin on keepin on Full Member

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    100% beat down. The result was not controversial at all. Haye did though excessively hit to the back of the head.
     
  3. Davies

    Davies Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Completley legitamate, Ruiz was never in the fight Haye outboxed, outsped, and outpunched Ruiz beating him to the punch and putting on a brilliant display of hitting and not getting hit.

    Haye admittedly rabbitpunched Ruiz a few times BUT Ruiz often turned his head in to the punch on a number of occasions,

    All in all Haye was pretty brilliant, he beat Ruiz soundly and really put a beatdown on him, dropping him 5 times and breaking his nose, Ruiz's face after was a complete mess and you could tell that Haye had done the works.

    Props to Ruiz for taking that much punishment before his corner retired him, he is as game as they come but Haye was in another league tonight.
     
  4. Pound4poundx

    Pound4poundx Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thanks a lot!
     
  5. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Ruiz is known for hamming it up to get point deductions and DQs. Usually it's "low blows." I guess Haye didn't hit him close enough to the beltline to pull one of his fake jobs, so he pulled a new "rabbit" out of his hat!
     
  6. jc333

    jc333 Active Member Full Member

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    Haye boxed with control, speed and power against a very game and focussed Ruiz.

    Haye rabbit punched him a couple of times - but to be honest - if you don't want to be rabbit punched, stop turning your head away. It was all "handbags at dawn" stuff. The outcome of the fight was never really in any doubt.

    It was a very good fight and Ruiz comes out of it with a lot of credit.
    Haye outboxed him and knocked him down 4 times. A well deserved win.

    I didn't know anything about any controversy until I came on here. It may be a bit of Jingoism.
     
  7. Pound4poundx

    Pound4poundx Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Much appreciated! I wish that I could have seen it but I guess that I'll have to settle for Jones vs Hopkins.
     
  8. jc333

    jc333 Active Member Full Member

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    ****! It's like we watched the same fight! :good:D
     
  9. haglerwon

    haglerwon Official GTMSBT Marquez Full Member

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    I gave Ruiz the 4th (I think it was ...), so not a complete shut-out up to the stoppage IMO, but it wasn't far off.
     
  10. Trickster

    Trickster Member Full Member

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    The controversy is just haters clinging to anything they possibly can to discredit a good performance. Nobody is mentioning Ruiz rabbit punching, using his elbows and hitting Haye after the bell had gone in the 1st. Ruiz had no point deductions for any of that but this is still clearly biased officiating from the referee who was from Panama :patsch
     
  11. There is NO controversy. When you see the replay you'll agree. Haye totally dominated Ruiz. Nobody can argue that point.
     
  12. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    I really dont think Haye was fighting all that dirty, they are fighting in there and ruiz simply puts his head in areas hes going to get rabbit punched, and also Haye throws his shots so wide sometimes that of course some will land where they arent supposed to.
    I dont think most of it was Haye being 'dirty'.

    Haye put on a decent performence, but then again, he was SUPPOSED to put on a decent performence.

    This is a 38 year old John Ruiz, and i for one saw many cracks in Hayes armor i didnt expect to see in this fight. Mainly, i thought he would control the distance better, i figured hed control ruiz a bit more and simply look less vulnerable early on. I get the sense that Hayes not as quite good as i thought he was at heavyweight but we will see.

    That being said, he went out there and knocked Ruiz down multiple times and made the corner throw in the towel, not many people do that to ruiz, even at this stage of his career. Plenty of good to talk about, like Hayes power, speed, ect.... but at the same time i think for people to want to overlook or ignore some of the negative of the fight is a mistake as well, and i hope Haye and his own camp is smarter then that.

    I dont class his performence as BRILLIANT considering his opponent and what he was supposed to do in the fight anyways (Haye was supposed to look good this fight) and then to have ruiz fluster him in parts like he did, but he def showcased his power and speed, that cant be argued and hes one of the only guys to stop Ruiz so that is a plus (however, lets be real, Ruiz is 38 and if he continues to fight in this non clinching manner hes going to get stopped more should he continue to fight top guys)
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    No offense, not accusing the entire lot of you of bias, but it would be nice to hear more reports from people other than the British contingent.
     
  14. TFFP

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    Pretty exciting fight. Not blood and thunder by any means because it seemed like Ruiz was concerned with the power and rightly so after being knocked down numerous times. But he did really try to get his punches off and tried to the best of his ability but only landed glancing blows. Nothing on Haye's chin.

    Haye was much more aggressive compared to the Valuev like anybody that has seen his career before that fight would know he is. He doesn't throw huge amounts but he upped his work-rate triple-fold for this fight against a same sized guy.

    There was no holding like people thought there would be either, hardly a clinch. Haye's movement was too good to get involved in that.
     
  15. haglerwon

    haglerwon Official GTMSBT Marquez Full Member

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    Good post.

    I agree with you. I like David Haye as a presence in the heavies, but there were certain things tonight that worried me.

    It's a double-edged sword, though. His risk-taking style is part of the reason he's exciting to watch and is why many people like him. On the other hand, the purist part of me thinks he should tighten up on his defence and use the jab a lot more effectively than he does (he has a pretty decent jab when he decides to throw it at the right time). The question is whether he could do the latter without negatively affecting the former.

    I was watching a stream on mute and had the BBC Radio coverage for audio. They were advancing the argument that he matches the style to the opponent and that, against Wlad for example, he would fight in a more "technically-correct" fashion which would give Wlad less opportunities. I think they were over-selling this point, though; I'm not convinced he's all that adaptable and his key strengths are what work for him.

    For the first time in this fight I started to wonder whether he might need to change his trainer. I'm not sure Adam Booth can give him that defensive well-roundedness that would make him less open or harder to get rid of. On the other hand, I don't know whether you can do that without diluting his strengths, either. It's all a pretty open question at the moment.