How did they build up Ali vs Berbick???

I don't know, so this is just conjecture, but I'm fairly certain it'd involve lots of similarities with the Holmes build up. "Ali's last stand" kinda thing.

 

Ali came in as the favourite you tell me.

 

There was no buildup. Noone saw it it was on obscure Ontv. Nobody cared. Ali was already history. Zero buildup. He ended his career in a foreign country to a cow bell. Ali needed more cow bell.

 

Young>>>Charles

 

This

 

Charles wipes his ass with that journeyman.

 

A journeyman doesn’t beat Foreman, Norton, Lyle, Shavers and Ali.

 

Crazy how you can 'beat' all of those guys, and still not be a tenth as great as Ezzard Charles.

 

Young clearly has the better HW wins this shouldn’t be a debate one tenth P4P duh, he only competed at HW.

Charles beat who at HW? JJW? BOB SHITFIELD?

 

You typed that like a spastic.

So you have to pick and choose the weight to argue Young is better than Charles? Y'know he started off at MW, right? Which means if anything, Charles is at a bigger disadvantage when at heavyweight than Young is P4P.

Jersey Joe Walcott. Twice. Who was a clear league above Young.

 

Resorting to insults? Really...we we’re originally talking about how he can’t accomplish what Young did against Foreman he beat Walcott? And? Bob freakin Sh1tfield...? how does this tell us he can beat Foreman?

All the points you made about him being at a disadvantage are all points in my favour so thanks?

 

I never insulted you. I said you typed your post funny, which you did.

No, actually. We weren't discussing that. You simply said that Young was greater than Charles. Which is wrong. And btw, Charles could absolutely beat the version of Foreman who fought Young. Charles would also beat Norton, Lyle, Post-Thrilla Ali and Shavers. So I really don't know what you're trying to get at. Young wouldn't beat Walcott, he'd wouldn't beat Moore, and the past prime version definitely wouldn't do so well vs Marciano.

No they don't lmao. Charles is a smaller man, who started off as a middleweight, and he was still a better heavyweight than Young. That does not, in any way, work in your favour. Plus, it's a courtesy that Charles' non-heavy achievements aren't in consideration. Young would **** himself if he could do half the things Charles did.

Charles > Young.

 

What were his achievements at HW that were greater then Jimmys exactly? Where is the evidence he could beat any of the men you say he can his win over BOB SH1TFIELD? Jersey Joe Walcott?

Not an ounce of evidence, none at all he was lucky the HW division was in such a poor state its that simple he became champion so? That’s all he has on Young a belt if that’s all it took to be great then Braddock>Young, Charles hasn’t got a better resume it’s quite shallow that I cannot stress enough something you keep ignoring.

He wasn’t close to the HW Young was at his peak unless you live in your head an outside the realms of factual evidence.

This isn’t P4P we are talking about HW

 

You talk facts as if Young factually beat Ali, Shavers and Norton.

Charles >>>> put up with it sucka