How did you score Cleverly-Bellew?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by WalletInspector, Oct 17, 2011.


  1. Bryn

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    You know that Nathan is Welsh, right?
     
  2. WalletInspector

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    At the moment...

    Cleverly - 32.50%
    Draw - 32.50%
    Bellew - 35.00%

    Close fight.
     
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  4. roe

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    1 - Clev
    2 - Bellew
    3 - Bellew
    4 - Bellew
    5 - Clev
    6 - Clev
    7 - Clev
    8 - Clev
    9 - Bellew
    10 - Bellew
    11 - Clev
    12 - Clev

    115-113 Clev. Very close though
     
  5. Bryn

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    I think the poll says it all Wallet, this really is one of those fights that could easily be scored a number of ways - with justification for pretty much any scorecard.

    Both men should be proud and a rematch should definately happen.
     
  6. Vano-Irons

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    I said it on the night, anything from 115-113 Bellew and 115-113 Cleverly is acceptable IMO
     
  7. DrMo

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    Yes, though due to recent successes he is now British, just like Joe :good

    He also wears a bandana, which his Dad twirls around when he takes it off:-(

    Despite wanting Tony to win I tried to be as objective as possible, I have a system for scoring rounds which is never wrong:deal
     
  8. Bryn

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    :think Interesting, please go on....
     
  9. gattiwarrior

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    cleverly 115-114 or 6-5-1 in rounds

    i had bellew 1 up going into the 11th
     
  10. DrMo

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    I have played a lot of chess, when assessing a chess position it is given as even (=), a slight advantage to white or black, (+/- or -/+), a significant advantage (++/- or -/++) or simply winning(+- -+)

    Each round begins even & every 30 seconds or so I will decide how things stand
     
  11. lirva

    lirva Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Clev by 2. I was so glad to see him get the decision over Bellew. Otherwise we would have seen ridiculous celebrations akin to the aftermath of the Atoli Moore fight. The great victory over Atoli was enough to send bellew shouting "whos next!! im the mother****ing man!!" into the camera. Thank **** we didnt have to see that shite.

    Anyway, I thought it was a very entertaining fight. It was going as I expected in the first 4 rounds and Bellew was in charge. I don't know whether he was hurt or tiring or what but he seemed to be less effective with his jab and threw less punches as the fight went on. I really thought he was in control in the first 4 rounds. I still think Bellew had the tools to win the fight but as he said, he didnt fight to his full potential.

    Full credit to Cleverly, he has a decent chin and is actually very good defensively, nice rolling with the shots. I think he could take Shumenov.
     
  12. roe

    roe Guest

    Interesting system and coincidentally I scored the rounds exactly the same as you.


    7-5 either way or 6-6 is pretty fair. Maybe, 8-4 to Clev at a push (seems extreme but it's only one round different to my card) but Dave Parris' scorecard of 8-3-1 to Clev is poor.
     
  13. 'Ben'

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    Glad I'm not the only one who scored it a draw.
     
  14. GazOC

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  15. SimonTemplar

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    Seriously are there any checks and balances in place to check that judges should continue as judges? To hold them to some sort of quality control? It seems pretty unanimous on here (regardless of which fighter we supported) that Parris' card is indefensible, and the fact that one of his colleagues scored the fight a draw lends further weight to the argument that his card is wide of the mark - in a sport where there are only twelve rounds, to disagree with a colleague by five rounds is pretty dramatic. So a genuine question, as this is not the first time that Parris' cards have failed to tally with the accepted view, is it likely that the Board might look at it and not use him for judging in future? Or are we stuck with him and just have to accept that he is going to throw in the odd crazy card?

    I know that it was a close fight, with rounds that were tough to score, but I don't see how anyone could make a case for his card and would like to think that the powers that be would agree with that and take action. Am I being naiively optimistic, or is there a chance?