How did you score De la Hoya's close or controversial fights

Great idea for a thread, we should do one like this for every great/near great fighter who had alot of close fights.

I had him beating quartet by one point.
I had him beating Trinidad 8 rounds to 4
I had him losing 8 to 4 to FMJ
I had him losing to Sturm 7 rounds to 5
I had him beating Mosley on the rematch 7 to 5
I change my mind on the Whitaker fight all the time....

 

Thought he lost to Whitaker, Quartey, Sturm and Mayweather.

He beat Trinidad and I can't remember the Mosley fights all that clearly except they were close.

 

Pernell Whitaker - 114-114 Draw
Ike Quartey - 114-113 Quartey
Felix Trinidad - 116-113 Oscar
Shane Mosley 1 - 116-112 Mosley
Shane Mosley 2 - 115-113 Oscar
Felix Sturm - 117-111 Sturm
Floyd Mayweather - 116-112 Mayweather

 

Big Oscar fan huh?

 

4-2-1

 

DLH
DLH
DLH (but his loss was justified, he should gave been tossed for not fighting the last four rounds)
Mosley
Draw
Sturm
Mayweather (a lot closer than it should have been though. Prime DLH beats him)

 

I just watched the Oscar-Whittaker fight. And while Oscar had a difficult fight. I feel Oscar won handily.

 

I don't have my score sheet out in front of me, but I've pretty much agreed with ever decision with the exception of Sturm, but even then I was cool with it cause I wanted the BHop fight and Sturm was a nobody so I didn't want the fight to go down the tubes for him.

The one I'm unsure of is Mosely 2.
I was watching that fight at a corner bar on Larkin and Geary streets in San Francisco, and I inexplicably felt incredibly sick and claustrophobic around the 8th round and left the bar and crumpled to the sidewalk and began vomiting.

My apartment was only a block away, so I mustered all my strength and crawled home and told my then gf, who nonchalantly told me that someone had probably put something in my drink.

I've actually never seen that fight again , that was already 20 years ago now it seems.

As far as the Mayweather fight, I didn't see that as a close split decision. I thought Mayweather cleared won and basically dominated over the last third of the fight.

Tito was another one I think people make too big a deal out of. Oscar just didnt want it that night, and he never wanted to run it back either, tells me everything I need to know.

But Quartey and Mosely 1 were both great fights and justified decisions.

De la Hoya vs Mosesly does not get the respect it deserves as literally being the Battle for LA. I know Mosely from Pamona, but that's less than an hour away.
Mosely never got the respect he deserved in LA.
I saw him KO Margarito at Staples Center, it was all Mexicans, hardly anyone was there to support Mosely. One of my greatest boxing memories ever!

 

I remember being convinced that Quartey beat him and that Oscar beat Trinidad. My recollection is that the Whitaker fight could have gone either way and that a draw would probably be a just result.

The others I’d have to watch again. Don’t really recall them although I’m sure I watched when they happened.

 

I had Whitaker by two points
Quartey by a point
Tito fight even
Mosley by four in the first fight
Even with Mosley in the second
Lost by four to Sturm
Lost to Floyd be a round or two

0-5-2 on my cards.

 

I thought he just edged Pea. I always have him against Tito with a comfortable margin. Can't see a win for Tito in this one.

Quartey edged him, but I had him winning the rematch against Mosley. I had Sturm winning comfortably and didn't think the fight against against Floyd was close on a round by round basis. Floyd managed to edge most rounds imo.

 

Another fight that isn't mentioned on this thread, is his fight vs John John Molina. I remember a few people thought Molina deserved the nod it was a close fight.

 

I thought Whitaker either edged him by a point or held on for a draw. Not a robbery and I can't grumble with anyone scoring it similarly narrowly to De La Hoya, albeit the official cards were way too wide.

Long time since I watched the Quartey fight, but I think De La Hoya just about did enough with the big twelfth round. A legitimate win.

He sure as hell didn't lose to Trinidad, but I do occasionally find myself wondering if he really beat him, either. Overall I tend to score this to De La Hoya by a couple of points or so, but don't have much sympathy for him on this one given his risible performance in the championship rounds.

Mosley I was a clear loss - I don't think this one is seen as controversial, is it? Shane by 116-112 for me, and even if I went with a narrower 115-113 that'd still be on the basis of Shane winning his seven rounds big and having to give Oscar nearly all the close ones / benefit of the doubt to have it that close.

Mosley II, on the other hand, was one where I thought De La Hoya was unlucky. No matter how many times I see it, I always seem to end up with 115-113 to De La Hoya.

The Sturm fight was a little more competitive than some claim, but agree with the consensus that his was the only time De La Hoya got away with blatant larceny - he never won it. Bad verdict and Sturm clearly should have kept his WBO belt that night.

@Dynamicpuncher has beaten me to it, and like he says I'm surprised this one doesn't get mentioned a little more than it does - but I'm not entirely sure that De La Hoya beat John John Molina. In fact I've scored that one to Molina outright before, albeit he was VERY lucky not to have any points deducted (that said, the cards were predictably way too wide in De La Hoya's favour).

I think that fight was a painful wake up call to De La Hoya that he wasn't in the amateurs anymore and Molina really did old-man him at times. Interestingly, the De La Hoya-Ruelas unification fight had already been signed for three months down the line, and of course Oscar was the new emerging superstar, so there was a lot riding on him beating Molina who wasn't expected to give him much of a fight. With all that in mind, Molina was never likely to get a verdict. But watching it dispassionately it's not absurd to suggest that he deserved to do so, again with the caveat that a couple of point deductions from him also wouldn't have been unreasonable.

 

can't remember most the others, I might not have seen them all, But Felix Sturm WON that fight, No Question!

 

Whitaker, I thought, should have won by a point. But at the end of the day, this isn't that terrible of a decision.

As a Quartey fan, I thought he lost it in the final round.

De La Hoya 118-110- While I understand why many grumble over Oscar's non-performance, he did just enough to bag most of the rounds. It was Tito who couldn't do anything other than follow Oscar around the ring.

The first Mosley bout was the super fight De La Hoya-Trinidad should have been. I have, on many past occasions, scored this one for Mosley. But, more recently, I have settled on both being draws. I have only scored the second once, and I am not compelled to revisit it any time soon.

I, similarly, have only watched the Sturm match once and I didn't keep track of the score at the time.

I can't find my card for the Mayweather, but I do remember having it close for Floyd.