How did you score Fury vs. Wilder?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Perkin Warbeck, Dec 1, 2018.


Who deserved to win Fury vs Wilder?

Poll closed Aug 26, 2021.
  1. Wilder

    5.1%
  2. Fury

    82.9%
  3. a draw is fair

    12.0%
  1. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't think there is any hard and fast rule that when a fighter scores a knockdown, he is limited to a 10-8 advantage for the round. With a resounding knockout like Wilder scored in the 12th round, I can see 10-7 or 10-6. The damage Fury did to Wilder in that round in no way compares to the damage he received. Boxing is more than just dancing around and posturing.
     
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  2. Gomo

    Gomo Active Member Full Member

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    115 - 111 Fury

    Oddly that makes it sound closer than it was, knockdowns aside i gave wilder 1 round.
     
  3. Gomo

    Gomo Active Member Full Member

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    So you would score a round 10-7 or 10-6 to a fighter for essentially landing 1-2 good punches that put another man down even though he may have been outboxed the rest of the round......if anything that 12th should have been 9-9

    clearly boxing scoring needs to change as its a pretty crap way to judge a fight but its pretty ludicrous to award more points for how heavy a knockdown is....if thats the case maybe we should award point for how well a boxer gets back up ?
     
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  4. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, you're damn right I would. When you hit a fighter hard enough that he blacks out and his legs turn to jelly and he totally collapses, you have accomplished something particularly noteworthy. I also give Wilder credit for finishing the fight stronger than Fury. In the old days, how a fighter finished a fight counted in a referee's decision about who won. As far as I'm concerned the quality of the knockdown in the final round demonstrated that Wilder had prevailed over Fury at the most elemental of levels.
    Getting up from a knockdown is part of the game. Fury was just doing what he was paid to do.
     
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  5. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Those calling the draw are failing to produce scorecards.

    Fight was extremely easy to score. Wilder won r2, r9 and r12 including two knockdowns. Fury won everything else. Giving Wilder round 2 is generous.
     
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  6. Gomo

    Gomo Active Member Full Member

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    Talking absolute rubbish mate...

    You give more credit to a one punch knockdown than 12 rounds of boxing skills, slipping,sliding, evading shots basically making the other guy look a mug all night...then one punch from the other and it's 10-6 lol

    Wilder didn't finish stronger, fury did. He was the one who got up and got back into the round and probably took the round bar the knockdown...

    The quality of the knockdown proved only that wilder hits extremely hard as we already knew, the fight as a whole proved fury is superior in every other department..

    So basically you have no respect for the art of boxing and prefer one trick ponys
     
  7. dmille

    dmille We knew, about Tszyu, before you. Full Member

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    A guy can be battered pillar to post for an entire three minutes and judges are reluctant to give a 10-8 without a knockdown. So there's no way they'd give a 10-6 for a one KD round. Some judges won't even score a 3 KD round as 10-6 (Pac-Marquez 1).
     
  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I scored it 115-111 Fury, giving Wilder only the KD rounds and the second. I could see maybe one more round for Wilder, but there were eight clear enough Fury rounds on which I don't believe there was much if any budge room.
     
  9. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's exactly how I scored it and even the 2nd round was close and I could see how some people gave it to Fury. If you give every close round to Wilder he wins 4 rounds tops.
     
  10. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ha Ha! Wilder got in two tricks to Fury's zero!
    Good discussion. That's what makes these forums fun.

    As far as respect for the art of boxing goes, my favorite fighters of all time are guys like Doug Jones, Harold Johnson, Holly Mims, Eddie Cotton, Archie Moore, Charley Burley, Joey Giardello, Tony Canzoneri, Luis Rodriguez, Joe Louis, Virgil Akins, Ezzard Charles, Freddie Steele, Mickey Walker, Pascal Perez, Greg Haugen, Eder Jofre, Billy Graham, Jersey Joe Walcott, Marvin Hagler, etc, etc. I could go on a bit more, but the type of cleverness I enjoy is the fighter who knows his or her craft well enough to stand in there and box without running all over and around the ring. I admire Ali for his speed, courage, and skill, yes and punching power too, but I dislike the influence his tactics had on the scoring of fights and how boxing fans and commentators ever since have come to view "boxing."

    So, as to Fury-Wilder, I admire Wilder for being able to a catch runner like Fury long enough to dump him twice. Usually dancers like Fury can get away with it for a whole fight. With runners, it takes a puncher like Wilder a while to catch up to them. Too bad the fight wasn't scheduled for a full 15 rounds.

    Anyway, I admit I'm out of my element here, so I'll crawl back into my hole and go back to posting on the "Classic Boxing" forum where I belong!
     
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  11. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Link below shows some other scorecards from publications, boxers, and pundits. Obviously a landslide for Fury. Only 2 people who called it for Wilder were George Foreman and Fat Dan lol.

    Love how Foreman scores a fight as long as you're the puncher and move forward it negates every other skill such as movement, defence, ring generalship, punches landed etc.

    https://i.imgur.com/nuZYdcp.png
     
  12. turbina

    turbina Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I had it 9 rounds to 3 for Fury. Gave Wilder the 2nd, and knock down rounds 10-8.
     
  13. rapscalion

    rapscalion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    9-3 Fury arguably 10-2. Even the rounds he got knocked down in he came back and did well
     
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  15. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Stop buying ppv stop watching until the sport.is cleaned up nearly every major fight is crooked
     
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