How did you score Lomachenko-Haney?

Nonsense.

Which man came closest to getting stopped ?

If round 11 were extended by a minute, the matter could well have been settled without the need for the judges.

 

115-113 loma

 

I'm afraid you are showing your inability to correctly assess what is actually happening in the ring. Neither man came even remotely close to being stopped, and your attempt to stretch reality by claiming Haney was close to being stopped in Round 11 is utterly absurd. If round 11 were extended by a minute, what would have happened? If you watched the end of the 11th would you see Loma gassed and not throwing much, and Haney landing some decent shots towards the end of the round. Haney wasn't on the verge of being stopped in Round 11, not when he was hit with some good shots earlier in the round, not at the end of the round. Loma just didn't showcase the kind of power that you're claiming he had.

 

This sentence is in keeping with my earlier assessment.

Your output needs to be considered, but in reverse.

If we dispense with remotely this is true.

But one came closer than the other to suffering a KO loss.

 

Correct.

 

Which imo is rather unlikely if the fight were fair

 

Excellent point on the effectiveness of Haney's punches. I had picked Haney to win due to his size and youth. I came away with a diminished opinion of Haney as he never really hurt a much smaller man and I saw very little fight in him when Loma came after him late. I see a serious azz whippin for Haney if he veers his buggy into the aisle at 140 pounds.

 

I did see Haney winning the first 6 rounds.

Rounds 10 and 11 were obvious Lomachenko rounds.

I did think Haney won round 12.

Rounds 7 - 9 were close but I would give Haney at least one round.

So Haney won.

Overall I was not impressed with Lomachenko. Haney did good work with the jab, to the body, and pivoting to the right and landing with the straight right hand. Haney is a pretty basic Orthodox boxer but he does the fundamentals well. Throughout the whole fight Haney was scoring consistently with clear crisp punches Lomachenko had a few moments with flurries.

Rounds 10 and 11 Haney was fading. I think it was psychological. He knew he was ahead winning the fight and wanted the fight to be over. It shows his lack of inexperience and relative lack of maturity, in his defense he is still very young. And I am impressed how much Haney has improved and matured over the last few years.

For Lomachenko I believe this so called downloading of his is overrated, he conserves a lot of energy early in the fight by starting slow then jumps on his opponent later in the fight when they get tired. Haney used a lot of energy winning the first 6 rounds of the fight. But he did. And then Lomachenko was behind and had to make up for that but he didn’t.

 

You know I basically never score RBR fights, right? because I enjoy the fights better when I dont waste time or effort in scoring. I score fights very rarely, and usually by "liking" the scorecards that are the closest to mine. This one was a huge exception, and actually I didnt post my score until Guerra asked me for it. It's curious how you "consistently" know my scorecards when I never post them, it looks like that your latest covid jab gave you superpowers.

Coming from a guy who spends all his time in the lounge and who gave his latest opinion about boxing in this forum when "El feroz" Vargas was already active, your comment doesn't mean very much.

Actually I'm amazed that you know who Haney is, tbh.

And you come back to hug some loma's nuts and to say that all Haney did was pit-patting in a fight where the key for Haney's victory was the bombs he threw to lomachenko's body, and where all lomachenko did was to throw 3 or 4 arm-punches per round without any intention at all of hurting Haney, just for the judges. With the only exception of round 11 (and round 10 if you are generous, a round that, btw, is loma's but is way closer than what all nuthuggers claim it to be).

Ridiculous. Stick to your lounge, and dont forget the next covid jab. You have forgotten even how to score a fight. Did I say score? Since your comment, you dont know even what you are watching on the TV anymore. Pitiful.

 

Lomachenko 7-5.

 

Yeah Haney's punches to the body were so devastating that it had absolutely 0 effect and Loma was the one pushing all the action in the later rounds while Haney looked gassed lol. Loma's punches to the head were cleaner and just more quality shots even if they were fewer than Haney's "devastating" body attack. Quality > Quantity for me in close scenarios. I also liked the defense I saw from Loma and how he was able to control the distance with his footwork. I never felt that Haney was in control at any point in the fight.

As far as me not watching boxing, you're right and I said this many times myself. Sport has gone way downhill in the past few years and there are better sports that I can invest my time into.. I still catch some fights here and there but yeah, I'm very much a casual now, I don't really see that as a diss lol.

 

Yes those punches to the body did so little effect. Loma lost round 12th, and the fight with that round, because......... ????

Yes, completely useless bodywork. So useless that it won Haney the fight in that 12th round.

Loma punches, out of rounds 10 and 11 were just fireworks for judges, completely harmless, armpunches. Zero damage, no weight on them at all, you only have to watch Haney's face, no marks at all. Amateur-like strategy. BS for idiots who cant score pro fights.

Plus Loma (out of rounds 10 an 11) didnt lead not a single round. All the initiative, ALL THE INITIATIVE, ALL, belonged to Haney during 10 rounds. 10 rounds where loma's plan was to steal rounds with 4 arm punches for the judges, and nothing else. No aggression at all out of those 3 or 4 arm punches (effective aggression or ineffective aggression, it doesnt matter, because there was directly no aggression). In the meantime Haney's aggression existed, and it was not very effective but effective enough and consistent. Not much, but definetly more than only 3 or 4 armpunches with no weight after them and thrown while walking without sitting on them, armpunches that were just a poor show for the judges.

This is not the amateurs.

 

Terrible fight to score! I had it 7-5 for loma.
Haney look a weight class or two above loma.

 

Inside the ring, no. Outside the ring one could argue.

 

Yeah because Haney at best barely edging out the 12th due to neither guy really finding quality looks is proof how going to the body early pays dividends later on lol. Ignore the 5 previous rounds, who cares.

People are glazing Haney's body punches, there was nothing on them, to be honest they almost looked like grazing shots to me, IDK if they were but they had so little power I wasn't even sure if they were landing cleanly. It looked like rangefinder body shots.

Loma's power is underrated, he throws his shots moving forward so you have all that momentum coming at you and to me I felt they were more impactful, Haney's head would snap back more or he'd pause for a moment. When Haney lands his body shots Loma didn't even have any reaction lol.