How did you score Pavlik - Taylor 2?

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  1. this bloke

    this bloke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i had it 115-114 for pavlik
    at the end of the fight before i added the scores up i didnt realise i had scored it so close i was going for taylor but thought pavlik was the deserving winner
     
  2. brown_bomber

    brown_bomber BROWN BOMBER Full Member

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    watching the fight on cctv stream last night i had jermain winning by one round
     
  3. djrock247

    djrock247 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    7 rounds to Taylor, 5 to Pavlik, 1 even
    115-114 Jermaine Taylor

    That's giving 3 VERY CLOSE rounds to Pavlik. I really thought Taylor won based on a more effective jab and cleaner punches landed. I thought he did a terrific job of avoiding the big right hand. I'm impartial, but I saw Taylor winning.
     
  4. Raging B(_)LL

    Raging B(_)LL KAPOW!!! Full Member

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    I am shocked some of you actually scored this fight for Taylor, were you guys watching from an online stream or something? Because watching it on HD here at home on my 47 inch plasma TV it was clear as day that Taylor did not do enough to win this fight, not by a mile. He fought in spurts throughout the fight, throwing occasional flurrys here and there with the vast majority of the punches he threw being blocked or avoided by Pavlik.

    He did connect with some good punches now and then, but how can you give a round to a fighter who barely lands anything of consequence and whos opponent is outpunching and outlanding them? Pavlik was the aggressor throughout, kept pumping that jab into Taylor`s face and was by FAR the more active fighter of the two. Anyone who scored this fight a draw or win for Taylor must be biased in some way, as Pavlik clearly won the last two rounds and won at least 5 of the first ten rounds as well.

    I`ll admit that I am a big fan of Pavlik`s and never was sold on Taylor from the moment HBO started hyping him, but that doesn`t mean I cannot be objective whn talking about him. To anyone who scored this fight a draw or win for Taylor what criteria did you use to do so? What did Taylor do to win the fight besides flurry occasionally during each round whereas Pavlik consistently kept throwing punches and landing more often than Taylor did?
     
  5. Lar Janus

    Lar Janus Member Full Member

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    I had it 115-113 Pavlik, though a draw would've been fair, and a JT win slightly shady imo. 117-111 was ludicrous, and even 116-112 a little much (meant that all the close rds were given to KP), as well as giving 6 straight rds to KP. I had it even going into the championship rounds, but Taylor really gassed, and didn't do much (can't see how anyone could've given him either of those rds); in the end, Pavlik's steady pressure won him the fight--he would've been better served going to the body early on, too much head hunting. I also think Pavlik landed the more damaging blows, while JT seemed to try to be stealing some rounds with flashy-looking flurries. Both guys blocked a lot of the other's punches, w/KP's heavier hands getting through more often.

    I didn't agree w/the punch-stats, and I wish they'd stop doing that nonesense--it serves no official purpose, and can be used as ammo by one side or the other. I thought it was about even, w/JT's coming in flurries and lessening over the second half of the fight, while KP just kept up a solid workrate.

    I never like to see a fighter get right back in there w/someone who's just ko'd him, seems like a tune-up type fight to clear out that experience is a prudent step. That said, I thought JT fought a great and determined fight, he seemed to have put that last fight out of his head; he fought about as good a fight against KP as he could, I think the extra weight ended up benefitting JT more than KP (contrary to my pre-fight thinking), but JT's lack of power to keep KP off of him meant that he was backing up all night--a tough way win.

    Pavlik didn't look nearly as dominating as he has, and JT did make him look slow, clumsy, and plodding at times. A bit of a reality check for KP and his fans. Oddly enough, in my book, JT's stock goes up after this loss, while KP's goes down a little.

    I agree w/the sentiment that these two need to go their separate ways after giving us two great fights--JT to 168 and KP back down to 160 for as long as he can make weight.
     
  6. ChampionsForever

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  7. safe_pa

    safe_pa Howlin' Mad Full Member

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    115-113 for Pavlik, it was a very close fight.
    Pity I lost my money betting on Taylor though :|
     
  8. JETSKI

    JETSKI Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My score also. And if you call an even 2nd round, which I debated on, then 115-114.

    I hope you learned a lesson not to go against The Ghost.:good
     
  9. safe_pa

    safe_pa Howlin' Mad Full Member

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    Indeed, lesson learned, unless Kelly fights Joe C :yep
     
  10. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Its simple Taylor threw the better more effective punches. Pavlik threw more, MISSED MORE, and landed more.

    7-5 Taylor
     
  11. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    115-113 Pavlik, and I was scoring favorably to Taylor.

    Reading these threads before I watched the fight today, I was expecting Pavlik's accuacy to be ****, Jermain to be landing punishing countershots at a great accuracy, and for Pavlik to have been hurt while Jermain never was.

    That's not what happened in the fight I saw. Jermain did land some effective counters, but missed or was blocked alot more than is being mentioned. Pavlik landed more and threw more, and generally dictated the pace of the fight. He had Taylor clearly hurt in the 11th, and his sweeping the final 2 rounds were the difference.

    This fight was closer to being a 116-112 Pavlik win than a 115-113 Taylor win. I think the most realistic stetch you could go for was a draw..even though the 117-111 score was a little out of whack, the right fighter won.
     
  12. LockDog387

    LockDog387 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    115-113, I had it even by the 10th round, but I had Pavlik winning the last two.
     
  13. boxon123

    boxon123 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To many here listened to the commentary. It wasnt close after round 7. pavlik 8 rounds to 4.
     
  14. PRproud

    PRproud Active Member Full Member

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    i wouldnt mine a draw, it was that close ,
     
  15. jsimps

    jsimps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There are a lot of biased folks, who couldn't score a fight to save their lives on this site. Here is my Tale of the Tape:

    KP JT
    Rd1 - 10 9
    Rd2 - 9 10
    Rd3 - 9 10
    Rd4 - 10 9
    Rd5 - 10 9
    Rd6 - 10 9
    Rd7 - 9 10
    Rd8 - 10 9
    Rd9 - 10 9
    Rd10 - 9 10
    Rd11 - 10 9
    Rd12 - 10 9

    116 - 112 Pavlik

    Pavlik was extremely busier and landed more jabs and power shot.
    Taylor fought in spurts. He landed cleanly and effectively when he did throw. He was looking not to get KO'd. He stayed off the ropes which was a huge plus for Jermaine. If this was a 15rd fight, Kelly KO's him.

    Props to JT, he fought well and should pose some threat at SMW.