How did YOU score the Lara-Williams fight?

My scorecard is exactly the same. I believe that the last round was all Williams. Not that he had Lara hurt or anything, Lara just didn't seem that into it in the last round while Paul was still trying his hardest.

Williams made bad decisions during his training camp, their game plan was ass.

 

Draw...114-114.

Many rounds were close due to Williams high work rate and aggression. The HBO echo chamber didn't give Williams any credit for his pressuring high volumn punching (a lot of his punches landed on Lara's arms and shoulders...yes, there is a difference between blocking a punch and taking them on the arms/shoulders) although, apparently, the judges did.

Lara countered well throughout the fight (scoring steadily with nasty straight lefts and right hooks over Williams poor/nonexistent defense) yet was only able to seriously hurt Williams once and he never knocked him down.

 

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Watch the fight again.

Oh, yeah, but this time, turn the volume off.

Williams got no credit for his work to the body (yes, that would include punches landed to the shoulder/upper arms) nor for the fact that he made the fight with his pressuring style and aggression.

Was his aggression effective? Yes. Williams pressure dictated the action, (and he paid the price for his poor defense) and although Lara countered effectively, counterpunchers can easily be judged as passive, of not doing enough to win close rounds.

 

8-4 Lara

 

I had given Williams a round or two, then I quit scoring the last third of the fight. I figured PW needed a knockout to win, so I was just watching for that.

 

goossen had it 7 to 5, williams. too funny

 

Jacory Harris, ladtec, MaliBua scored this fight 9+ plus rounds for Williams.

I think I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, maybe they were intoxicated on the night.

 

this...^

 

what was your score card. Williams landed most of his punches as slaps and wouldn't even get credit for them in amateur scoring system.
You could say Williams outworked him, but the problem with that is he landed less punches :-(

This isn't a case of fighter A out landing fighter B, but most of fighter's A's punches were meaningless. Fighter A landed less and the punches he did land had no effect

 

I had Lara winning 1-3, PDub 4-6, Lara 7, PDub 8, Lara 9, PDub 10, Lara 11, PDub 12
114-114, which is why I've stated from the beginning that while I thought Lara would get the nod (I'm not an official judge, so my "card" was irrelevant) and deserved to win based on the damage inflicted during his winning rounds, I wasn't just blown away Williams got a draw or won. Some of the 9 rounds or more **** is as comical to me, as my card may be to you, I don't know how the **** you make a case for Lara winning 9 rounds of that fight, regardless how bad the end sum was weighted to Lara.

 

You say they were meaningless, but there's no question Lara ran out of gas down the stretch, and obviously PW concentrated a lot on the body and especially when they were on the inside. Now I'm not saying PW won the fight, but obviously he did something meaningful or the man wouldn't have allowed himself the opportunity to lose by essentially giving away the last 1/3 of the fight. From all accounts Lara is a well conditioned athlete, it seems reasonable to me that Williams inside/body work was more effective than some are giving him credit for.

 

Yeah, everyone who sees it different than you is brainwashed by the commentary.

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Overused platitude. Bring something else to the table.

Uh, NO! That would not and should not include punches landed to the shoulder and upper arms. Those are not legal blows. Those would be blocked shots. Body shots refers to something more specific than "any part of the human anatomy". The gloves have to strike a legal scoring area to be counted. atsch

Seriously, reread what you wrote here.

So he got himself repeatedly punched in the face while missing, and that makes for effective aggression? :blood

He did indeed pay the price for his ineffective aggression by a) getting popped repeatedly in the head and b) losing rounds on any good scorecard.

No, they can't. Not by any judge who isn't completely unprofessional and borderline ******ed.

If you are countering effectively, you get credit for it. No ifs ands or buts. It's not a judge's place to determine that one boxer is being too passive. If you're passive but more effective than your opponent (landing at a higher clip, and landing the better shots) you win. It's that simple, and really no adult with a brain functioning above kindergarten level should see it any differently.

 

I watched it twice and scored it 10-2 first time, then 9-3 the second time.

 

I know it's a fact because this isn't the only forum where people were outraged while only 15 minutes ago they were praising how great Antillon vs. Rios was.

And being an pompous a-hole while having faith that people actually score fights for themselves just proves you're not just a douche bag but also a naive ****.

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