How dispiriting is a devastating YouTube KO to a fighter?

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  1. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Back in the day, no matter how brutal a beating a boxer got, it was only on next morning's sports page; with only enough column inches -- 'n odd newsreel for a heavyweight championship -- to designate the match's importance. Then it was yesterday's news -- GONE!

    The KO'd fighter could quickly bounce back. Across the country, few had seen the debacle.

    But, with the advent of Youtube the humiliation's just a Google away. Does the ever-present reminder erode a fighter's confidence?
     
  2. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think so.

    I imagine that fighters were equally affected back in the day by gossip and newspaper headlines as they are today with youtube, internet etc. It's just technology that is changing; the feelings and emotions are the same.

    If anything, it may make you want to redeem yourself even more.
     
  3. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    I agree, how hard would you want to redeem yourself if you were khan?
     
  4. Tully

    Tully Well-Known Member Full Member

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    PUt yourself in their position, how would you feel? It must be f*cking horrible.

    Example. Judah vs Tszyu
     
  5. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But headlines were gone in a day, P
     
  6. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think all Judah will be remembered for is the chicken dance. Back in the day -- except for the people in the arena -- it would mean nothing. Describing it in an article couldn't possibly make it as indelible.
     
  7. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's a tough call.

    I mean, clearly it's more embarrassing to see yourself getting brutally KO'd on youtube for the remainder of your existence than it was when the news came and went in a day.

    But, the people who matter most are the people that follow your every move (family, friends, detractors) and you have to suffer the defeat and humiliation with them with or without youtube. Who cares what everyone else thinks?
     
  8. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNiKroscdi8[/ame]

    What if that was you? He'll regret that forever.
     
  9. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Look at what it did to Charlie Zelenoff:

    Getting his ass kicked by Andrew Hartley:
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlxtDLPKnDA[/ame]

    Has led to him counting sparring matches as real fights, buying toy championship belts, hiring bums off the street to impersonate actual fighters to fight for said toy belts, and then posting this pile of fail in an attempt to wipe away the shame of always being 0-1.
     
  10. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  11. Houseof7GB

    Houseof7GB Active Member Full Member

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    Very interesting, something to consider when you look at the grinding pressure of the boxing game...I mean, it is already hard just to be a pro boxer back in the day unencumbered by the daily graphic spectacle of the modern era, just to get through the day without the constant cloud that hovers over you even right after a victory when the next fight is on the horizon, against men trained to hurt you, embarrass you in a very public and unforgiving forum. Add to this grind the impudence of ungrateful fans in the blogs and graphic details of your humiliation, it's enough to drive a grown man to cry (say PBF's first retirement speech) or to act out irrationally.

    It takes more courage than I can ever imagine to do this professionally...you'd have to have the strenght of a buddhist monk's sense of inner peace and contentment to get through the pabulum pukers in the blogs and youtube with your sense of sanity intact, a warrior of a different sort.
     
  12. mtw951

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    Really good question I never thought about. I think depending on the fighter's mentality it can vary. If its a very prideful fighter who gets broke i think it might hurt to see but some im sure get motivation from it. It must be hard for guys like Khan and Hatton to watch that tho.
     
  13. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    There are more embarrassing things than getting knocked out. Punching yourself in the face, for one. Especially if its set to music.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdFP-R_LYSM[/ame]
     
  14. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It must be harder nowadays, esp. with videos like this one

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDZFQCgsVw8[/ame]