How do I develop? - How did you develop?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by digit, Apr 19, 2011.


  1. digit

    digit Member Full Member

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    I've been training at my gym for 15mths, problem being work and injury (soccer) has constantly disrupted my training. However, I've this year quit soccer to concentrate on Boxing, I want to give it all my focus while I still have energy in my limbs!

    I'm keen to know the stages of development everyone went through from their first session through to their first fight eg how often you trained and what things you worked on first through to being 'fight ready'?

    For me and my current progress, I am relatively confident with Jab, Cross, Hooks and Uppercuts and am completing pad work that consists of 3x2 minute rounds of 6-8punch combos with slips/double slips. Speed has definitely improved in the last month and power has always been a strength of mine (in the context of a guy starting from scratch!). Thats not to say I cant still work on each of these to improve further!

    Negatives are definitely my footwork (Im not yet confident with my movement), breathing technique (I seem to hold my breathe when punching!) and my overall fitness levels. The latter two are probably because of my soccer conditioning where I played striker, so for years trained for short explosive bursts and long recovery.

    I'm 33 and under no illusions about me being limited in terms of where I go with boxing, however I still want to show the sport respect by doing whatever I can to improve.............. I wish I had have found it when I was an angry teenager!

    Thanks in advance for sharing your early journey as fighters!
     
  2. illstillz

    illstillz Member Full Member

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    Alot of people say you have to start boxing when you are young, I don't believe in this logic so much. The younger you are coming in the sport the faster you leave it. Most young people careers are over before they even hit there physical prime 28-35. So age is a factor but its the the end all be all. Train hard with passion and love what you do and the sky is truly the limit.
     
  3. Leonius

    Leonius Member Full Member

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    Do you have a coach?
     
  4. BagsWithDust

    BagsWithDust Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This, sergio martinez didnt start boxing until he was 20 or 21 and hes 36 now in his prime. Bernard hopkins started around 20 as well (i think) and hes still in the game.

    My advice is just to stick with it and work hard, dont pay attention to how others are doing around you and just focus on yourself and BELIEVE
     
  5. digit

    digit Member Full Member

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    Sure do, have a 1 on 1 session with him each week. However because of my fluctuating training it means I don't get as much out of those sessions as I should, hence me looking to do more of my own training at other times.

    The 1on1 training has been great, I love when we real down a punch or defence and I get to learn the efficiency of that movement and the relationship between defense and attack.......... As I say, wish I'd started when I was younger instead of pointless fights on the street!!!

    The gym I go to is great, the owner is always on the floor watching and he really knows his stuff. Once a week the trainers have to do a dedicated training session as well with a guy who has coached boxing for top level fighters, so it gives me two degrees of separation in what I'm learning!
     
  6. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Right on man! Keep growing. In my experience Boxing has been slow progress forward, then a leap, then a review that takes you back, then slow progress forward.

    -- Basics - You are hearing everything, but can't seem to do any of it. You are punching, blocking, OR moving. This is where pressure kicks your butt every time! This is also where you are breaking down your aversions to adrenaline dumping, hitting people in the face, and/or fighting off of anger. You can be broken fairly easily.

    -- Growth - You are beginning to find what "works" for you but you are pretty much stuck doing that. Still you can be completely stuffed by a guy who is your style poison, counter puncher/pressure. You are seeing some success with your "money" shots, but nerves are still high. You are beginning to "read" men and gain mastery over your composure.

    -- Skill Acquired - You can now "get" the subtle stuff your coach was telling you, but seemed so complex before. You are also realizing things that you have forgotten since you have now internalized so many of your mastered offensive sequences. Now you are starting to try to round out your game seeking out the stuff you suck at and training it.

    -- Acceptance - You have now come to the Zen state where you accept getting hit is part of the game and you don't have much malicious feeling toward punching others. Boxing is just a progression of events. Your "feelings" are internal to your personal expectations of your game plan(s). You can "see" what guys are even when they first step in the gym. Your physical and mental growth have taken you to a place where you hit hard (even when not trying) and can always pull something from somewhere if you are tired and a guy slips up. You are beginning to look forward to the clash. You are even happier for a challenging clash. Now you are officially dangerous, but this is Boxing so you continue to grow. (and everyone at the gym knows you.:yep)

    Honestly I think it takes a few years for an average guy to get "good" at Boxing. No less than 2-4 years. At 33 just enjoy the ride. IMHO it is a wonderful skill for any man to have and an interesting twist on fitness. It is a noble art.
     
  7. Leonius

    Leonius Member Full Member

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    If your looking to fight one day then keep mentioning that to your coach, your first fight will teach you so much.

    As to fitness add some roadwork and build that up to increase general fitness, that extra fitnes will also allow you to get more out of your time in the gym boxing.

    To stop holding your breath start making a hissing noise when you throw a punch, for your footwork spend some time with the heavy bag where you push it to get it swinging and then practice stepping around it to avoid the swings.
     
  8. tim851

    tim851 Member Full Member

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    Yes, indeed.

    One of the first things I tell the youngens is that they are not Roy Jones. The average joe just isn't that much better than his opponent (be it in sparring or competition) and so they better get used to taking some shots if they want to give some.
     
  9. bck620

    bck620 Active Member Full Member

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    I recommend a tram-line for footwork basics. Just do 3 rounds of this a session. Practice moving forward, backward and side to side all while maintaining your balance and not compromising your stance.

    * Make sure you are pushing off the rear foot and not stepping and dragging the feet. This can be kind of boring, but its good. Then you can add pivots and jabs etc.
     
  10. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah its a long slow process and a lot of it SEEMS to be mental adjustment ... but really, this is hand in hand with just improved timing, having been in a situation before, your body's muscle memory, etc.

    I was always huge and strong for my weight, and since I was very young I had been in a very conditioning based external style of karate with no kicks above the waist, lots of shin and forearm and stomach impact training, and for whatever reason I was really naturally fast.

    The first time I hit the heavy bag on my college boxing team, the old crusty assistant coach came over and told me, "you can't be beat, you've got a great jab". What he was seeing was speed and power, but what he wasn't seeing was the intangible unfamiliarity with being hit HARD IN THE FACE. When he saw me spar later, he had this look on his face like "How did he just get his ass kicked? he had a great jab"

    Plus, the way they had me running reduced my weight from 125 to 112, and I felt so much weaker I would try all kinds of things to avoid doing such long cardio, until I stabilized at about 118 for my first few fights. Bled a lot, did not take shots to the nose well, felt weak by the end of every second round. I needed to be going into these fights at least at 125 to have much punch resistance and not get tired.

    I got way way way better, but I was apalled at how much shots hurt me when I was not heavy enough, and how the blood would soak through my underwear and just not stop. But I was still a boy, my real man strength and punch resistance did not come until I was 25 years old, when I would spar ten rounds all the time with medium contact, work 12 hard rounds on the bags, etc, and have less bleeding at 128 lbs.

    EVERYBODY GETS BEATEN BADLY WHEN THEY ARE BEGINNING.
     
  11. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Whose your coach- how do you know he knows his stuff?
     
  12. digit

    digit Member Full Member

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    Combination of things from the way he trains and explains things, coupled with the integrity of the gym owner who has high standards when it comes to the coaches that work in his gym. Plus the calibre of people who visit the gym and the pedigrees of their background.
     
  13. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Sounds promising buddy excuse my pessimistic attitude re this but I know trainers who have pretty much zero understanding of fitness and poor knowledge of fundamentals- but the people they train with think they're amazing!
     
  14. digit

    digit Member Full Member

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    Couldnt agree more, Ive done training before with other 'coaches' and within the first few minutes the person is not a boxing coach but more a boxercise coach!
     
  15. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Whom is ur coach? Uk based?