How do people think that fury wanted to get out of the fight?

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  1. ertwin

    ertwin Active Member Full Member

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    Why should the guy that dethroned a decate long unbeaten champ and the hardest hitter in the history of Hw boxing shiit his pants fighting AJ. Does Eddie Hearn have a oneway connection into the brains of Aj fans?
     
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  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Of course he wants the fight. There is literally NO other big money fight out there.

    But since he is looking for the money, it has to be right.
     
  3. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." Full Member

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    Because people are mentally deficient?


    This is the guy who went to Klitschko's turf and won. The big bro who handled Joshua's doubter for him, again on away turf—picking himself off the canvas from the kind of signature Wilder bomb that typically ends bouts, then going back for more and dispensing a humiliating beating—
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    On the other hand, we have Joshua. The guy who couldn't even handle the thought of Wilder crashing his post-fight celebrations and calling him out (a time-honored boxing custom). The guy who stepped aside and let Tyson Fury emphatically clean up his doubter, while he got slapped around by Andy Ruiz and responded to an official's prompt by sagging in a corner with a countenance full of defeat (I won't categorically state that he quit—his mouth made the right noises—but his body language certainly left room for speculation).


    Hearn's modus operandi should be transparent to even the most dull and ignorant among us by now. This cheap barker grabs his cane and megaphone, whoops and hollers and makes a lot of noise, throwing up the facade of an earnest merchant hustling and bustling away to make the big one happen, while busily throwing spanners in the works in the fine print, before just as loudly declaring that it's all off and it's all the other side's fault, predicating on the masses being so lacking in reading comprehension/attention span/boxing industry savvy as to allow him to get away with it. 'After all, you saw just how hard I was working to make it happen.'

    This cheeseball should be equivalent to a leper as far as boxing fans are concerned. He has long made it obvious that he thinks you are stupid, he's been insulting your intelligence for years, and yet there is still a significant number among you who seem intent on proving him correct.


    Anybody who thinks that Fury is in any way afraid of Joshua is crippled between the ears.


    Forgive me if I spare myself months of protracted bitching with the peanut gallery over negotiations.

    I'll revisit the matter of Fury-Joshua in the week of the fight, assuming Hearn and his charge aren't just woofing yet again.
     
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  4. sasto

    sasto Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What if Fury was the dosser all along?
     
  5. JDub

    JDub Active Member Full Member

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    Well he’s got 4-5 offers on the table now according to his social media, so let’s see what he does.

    And as for defeating “a decade long champ and the hardest hitting in HW boxing history”, do me a favour, Wilder was an absolute fraud who feasted on bums and got beat by the first decent opponent he faced (twice), first time said opponent was clearly still out of shape too.
     
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  6. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." Full Member

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    What if Wilder or his handlers had been femme enough to tell Tyson Fury that this wouldn't be allowed in NYC?



    What if Joshua had found the stones to demand that Hearn deliver him the Wilder fight, instead of allowing Fury to steal his thunder?


    By all means, take a crap on Wilder's credentials. It only piles further ignominy on Hearn and Joshua's decision to swerve him while leaving Fury to do the heavy lifting.

    Tyson rolled off the couch and took the fight after two and a half years out of competitive action, with only two undistinguished gimme fights by way of preparation. Then, after being chiseled out of a deserved victory, not only did he go back for more, he adopted a strategy that the vast majority of observers deemed suicidal, taking the fight to Wilder and beating him from pillar to post 'til the only guy in his corner with any guts took pity and waved the white flag.

    Nobody can reasonably fault that.

    Yet and still, ever since Fury battered Wilder, Joshua's cheerleaders have been torn between belittling the feat and crowing about it like their guy actually did something. Quite bizarre, boys.

    Forget fighting Wilder, your guy couldn't even deal with the thought of a scenario like this;





    He wanted smoochy handshakes and flowing compliments,
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    It's come to something when a YouTuber can handle a time-honored ring invasion more manfully than a 'world champion'.
     
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  7. Finkel

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    Just out of curiosity, why didn't Wilder invade the ring to challenge the winner of Joshua v Klitschko?
    He was sat ring-side helping on the commentary after all.
     
  8. Furious

    Furious Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hahaha, these are great posts - thank you
     
  9. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." Full Member

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    By the time Joshua and Parker were due to meet, talk of a Joshua-Wilder bout was reaching a fever pitch. Discussion of that bout was nowhere near as rife one year prior (when Joshua-Klitschko took place).

    Whether Wilder did or didn't storm the ring in April of 2017 is academic. He intended to stage a confrontation in March of 2018 and was informed, by both Hearn and Joshua, that he would be prevented from doing so.

    "You don't dictate to me that you're getting in my ring."

    ^ Imagine a fighter saying that. :lol:
     
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  10. Furious

    Furious Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Joshua can’t do spontaneity like that, he doesn’t have the personality or charisma. He needs things to be scripted. The ‘gloves are off’ and press conferences with him and Fury will be fun.
     
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  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ya know, technically Wilder was a man of his word. He did end up baptizing Fury as he promised in the 12th of their first fight. :lol:
     
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  12. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." Full Member

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    And thank the good lawd for it. That knockdown produced one of the most indelible moments in heavyweight history—Fury rising from six deep to finish the round backing Wilder up.

    It's a crying shame Wilder couldn't just accept his defeat in the rematch with good grace. Otherwise, he acquitted himself admirably throughout their duology. Plenty of persistence and heart.
     
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  13. Finkel

    Finkel Member Full Member

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    Yeah...no.

    That's not exactly how it went now is it.
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    Fair enough to say they were both being childish and caught in a game of brinkmanship, but nothing more than that.

    Was security going to stop Wilder standing up and approaching the ring apron in either instance? Doubt it.

    I can accept both parties were being petty, but Wilder chose not to attend.
     
  14. JDub

    JDub Active Member Full Member

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    All this climbing in the ring stuff is just pantomime. Wilder said himself he was offered more money to fight Joshua but he went the Fury route. Big deal.

    Look, I like both Joshua and Fury but let’s drop the WWE pantomime nonsense and focus on actual boxing yeah.
     
  15. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Fury "wanted to get out of the fight" he wouldn't have wasted the last few months of his career pretending to be waiting for the fight.

    There was hardly any pressure on Fury to face AJ, since he's facing legal and financial trouble from Wilder's team anyway.
    If he didn't want to face AJ, he could have easily said months ago that he's waiting to press on with the Wilder fight to avoid any trouble.

    Likewise, AJ wants the fight too. If he didn't he would simply use the Usyk mandatory obligation as an excuse to not fight Fury.
     
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