How do Robinson's close controversal fights in his prime affect his legacy?

Ok. We seem to see eye to eye on this one. And an extra plus for your passion.

 

Well if there's losses against lesser opp, like enough to really slide the ratio of his great wins:bad losses, then i'd have to rate him accordingly. His resume in that respect is immaculate though, it must be said. There's no bias PP, i don't actually know if he's the greatest, the resumes of one or two other fighters such as Greb and Langford must be considered, but on the point of performances, i do think Robinson was the best from what i've seen so far.

 

:good

 

Well, just about all his fights with Gavilan and LaMotta was fairly close. The last fight against LaMotta is of course an emphatic win, though.

But he did beat Zivic quite comfortably, didn't he?

 

This should almost be made a sign and put up on the entrance of the Classic Forum.:yep

 

I see what you're getting at then PP, you don't like how the consensus is that absolutely nobody has a chance of beating Robinson or Greb in a hypothetical match-up. It pisses me off when people do that with other atg's, i feel you there, but i do kind of let it slide when it comes to Robinson tbh.

 

Supreme as he was, you probably shouldn't. A 5-10% enhanced Bell would probably after all beat him at his WW prime...

 

I also think Janitor has a great point when he says that there probably are Nortons in every generation of contenders, but that they just don't get to meet their Ali.

 

:good All specualtion ultimately though, it must be said. But i agree.

 

Wow they do look like each other quite a bit,

EDIT- No homo

 

But, yeah, there's not a welter in history I would make a favourite against Robinson.

 

Garfield wrote a very eloquent post about it just yesterday, I think. According to him both seemed to give it their all, and why wouldn't they? This was probably somewhat of a career decider for Robinson. He had had to wait a long time for that title shot, and who knows how long he'd have to wait for the next shot if he had lost.

 

A prior post from Dan Parker addresses the two Gavalans fights rather well and the rematch reads like an ass whipping.