How do we think Froch fairs against...

I pick him against Dawson because against Johnson he showed some of old JT's traits - vulnerable under pressure.

Dawson could very well school him though. I know you don't want to place much stock on weight, but it would play a part in a fight like this.

 

He'd lose to Hopkins, Kessler, Abraham, Pavlik, probably Dawson as well, and maybe Bute. I think Johnson and Andrade would be 50/50.
But for what its worth I think he would beat Woods and Bika.

 

I think Pavlik would beat Froch. Pavlik would be able to keep up the left-right metronomes and take Froch's shots.

I don't see how Froch beats him, even if Pavlik isn't great at 168.

 

i think Dawson would school him he mght have been vunerable to Johnson but he did outfight him and outbox him

 

I didn't know he was thinking about moving down. He's already slim at light-heavy so that could be a struggle.

I give Froch a puncher's chance though. His free-wheeling rights down the pipe could work well against a southpaw like Dawson.

 

I hope he goes down the full hog though. There's something messy and incomplete about catchweight fights.

 

I dont think my assesment of him has changed much at all. Even before the Pascal fight I was saying he can beat every at 168 bar Kessler and JC.

One thing I have noticed though is people are letting their love for Andrade cloud their judgement. Yeah he's a great guy and good fun to watch and did come with a **** hair of upsetting the Bute train but that does not change the fact that Kessler slaughtered him and Bute was handing him a beatdown for 11 and a half rounds. He's good but he aint a champ. Taylor and Froch would both beat him, quite possibly Bika Inkin and Balzsay too. he should be ranked no higher than 5 or 6 at SMW, certanly not 3rd like a lot of places have him.

 

I'm not saying Inkin/Balzsay/Bika WOULD beat him just that the certainly could - Bika in particular. Neither Taylor nor Andrade are champs and so if they fought it would likely be fighting 10 rounds and so I would pick taylor to last. Over 12 Andrade has a better chance with Taylor but I'd still have Taylor a slight favourite.

Just saying 3 is too high a rating for Andrade, not that he is ****. I'd have him 5 or 6 and I can see no reason whatsoever for him being ranked higher than 4.

 

Arthur Abraham - 50-50 fight, depends how many fights Abraham has at Super Middle
Kelly Pavlik - I see Froch winning this, beyond 160lbs Pavlik is not effective

Sakio Bika - He wins with a bit of trouble
Karoly Balzsay - Froch by KO
Librado Andrade - This would be allot like the Pascal fight but Froch would be on top allot more
Lucian Bute - Froch is to strong for Bute
Mikkel Kessler - The number 1 at super middle, Kessler takes it all day long

Clinton Woods - He is past it, Froch wins it
Adrian Diaconu - Do not rate Diaconu, Froch wins
Hugo Hernan Garay - Froch via decision
Zsolt Erdei - Froch would take this via decision
Glen Johnson - At 175 Johnson, at 168 froch
Chad Dawson - Dawson would take this and stop Froch at 175
Bernard Hopkins - I really would fancy Froch in this fight. Fighting on the inside is not the way to beat Froch. Hopkins is a bully, he could not bully Froch. I dont think at 45 he could take someone as tough as Froch

 

I'll comment on a selection of the fighters I have reasonable knowledge of:

Arthur Abraham - Froch should be the bigger and stronger, Abraham is not known for his high work-rate, so would think Carl would win a reasonably close UD.

Kelly Pavlik - Kelly has a high work-rate, but Carl would have the additional strength. Kelly struggles against anyone who doesn't stand in front of him, if Carl could make it awkward for him Carl would win a UD or late stoppage.

Sakio Bika - Froch UD, Bika is a very awkward opponent, but is not a top level fighter.

Librado Andrade - 100% the wrong opponent for Froch. A pressure fighter with a fantastic chin. Could see his punch output and work-rate snatch the title from Froch. Would be someone i'd stay away from due to high risk/low reward. Would be an absolute war however, so good for the fans.

Lucian Bute - Chin issues could prove a blessing, would probably say a similar fight to the Taylor one. Either Bute keeps away from Froch and wins a UD or he sucombs to the pressure and gets KOd.

Mikkel Kessler - Kessler KO, Froch's defence & chin is not enough to stand up to 12 rounds with Kessler. It would be brutal and potentially career ending.

Clinton Woods - Wide UD for Froch, Clinton is a top bloke but unfortunately way past his best.

Glen Johnson - very interesting fight/war - would be good for the neutrals. Would think Froch carves out a very close UD.

Chad Dawson - Chad's speed dances around Froch all night, Froch looks like an amateur for 12 rounds and is highly embarrassed to lose 120-108.

Bernard Hopkins - Hopkins is skilled and crafty enough to improve on his Pavlik performance. Froch doesn't have the work-rate or speed to trouble his stamina issues. Hopkins tees off on Froch constantly for a late stoppage.

 

I absolutely love the way that most of you guys pick Kessler to beat Froch .. Apart from losing to Calzaghe, what else has this guy done to warrant this adoration ?? Some of you guys are like groupies to a rock singer, Kessler has a great image (good tattoos), but whats he done since Calzaghe ??
I dont think Joe is as great as hes made out to be so im totally not convinced with Kessler, but some of you guys make him out to be a prime Carlos Monzon, and its totally ridiculous ..
Kessler has done nothing since being comfortably beaten by Calzaghe and that must be at least 18 months ago. Were is he, hiding in Denmark ?? Or looking for easy fights in Germany ??

I'd fancy Froch against Pavlik but he shouldnt go anywere near Hopkins. The way Froch holds his hands down by his waist is a worry against the top line fighters, but to be honest, the super middle, 168 division is like its always been, as weak a division as Cruiserweight.
If i was Froch i'd go all out to get Kessler in the ring in England, Kessler is a nobody in the states so it couldnt be held there, or i'd go for Pavlik. But judging by Pavlik fighting Rubio and Mora, im convinced that Pav has some psychological damage from the Hopkins demolition ..

 

Some of you guys think Kessler is the boxing equivalent to Elvis .. Its so stupid, hes done nothing but lose to Calzaghe, and he lost in a more convincing way than Robin Reid .. Kessler is nothing but a guy with Tattoos, just like David Tua used to be a guy with a great hairdo, the image is clouding peoples judgments ..

These guys with great images really suck some of you people in .. Its acheivements that count, and Kessler has done nothing since being easily done by Joe .. With Froch beating Taylor, he's had more impressive wins than Kessler .. Please stop with the Kessler love-in, its like a cult round here when Kessler is mentioned and hes done nothing, and beaten nobody of any note ......