How do you beat Joe Calzaghe?

Kmac, I agree 100%. I can't in all honesty rank Joe as an all time great. That status should belong to the very few exceptional fighters like Louis, Holyfield, Hagler, Nelson, etc. Joe was very good, hard to beat and exceptionally fit, but he lacks the great names on his record to be up there with the best. I thought Hopkins beat him and Jones was completely shot and still floored him. If they fought in their respective primes, they would both have beat Joe.

For the record, my Dad was Welsh, so it's not an anti-Brit thing.

 

He may have thrown 100+ blows a round but how many of those were legal punches & not inside of the glove SLAPS!!! Not too many.
No way in hell Calzaghe beat Hopkins legitimately Joe knows it too hence his refusal to rematch

 

You mean the French, Spanish, and Dutch combined to help you stave off the British after our Navy recaptured New York.

As for spanking asses you are the girlies that are always on the spanking end. Vietnam? How about now? You are getting spanked by a bunch of ragheads that operate from caves in the Afghanistan / ****stan border region.

 

This thread is stupid.

Calzaghe was good, infact he was great. He was however no MUhammed Ali, Roy Jones or Mike Tyson. He never had this unbeatable aurora.

If Hopkins had gone up in weight at an earlier age then Calzaghe would likely have lost, if Joe had gone up in weight and fought Roy Jones or maybe even Dariuz Michalsewski he would likely have lost.

Calzaghe was damn good and I'm proud to have always been a loyal fan of his while the haters were claiming that he'd lose to Lacy and Kessler and all kinds of nonsens. Threads like this are however an insult to Calzaghe's legacy.

 

I agree with all you've posted, except I would change GREAT, to GOOD. :yep

 

A quick fast counterpuncher beats joes

 

True,

As far as I'm aware Calzaghe only got caught using drugs AFTER he retired.

 

That's true - they all lost. And more than once.

Good to see some sense at last. :good

 

After he beat Eubank who did Joe fight of merit for 10 years after and please don't say reid or woodhall lol

 

You get a legitimate referee who will call him on his 100+ slap punches and make him actually box. Then he's in trouble.

 

So every single referee in Super Joe's career was a sh*t ref? :rofl

Super Joe never lost his '0'. Deal with it. :deal

 

You don't. He's retired

 

Slap him more frequently than he slaps you...:hi:

 

I agree that Roy would stand the best chance of beating a prime Calzaghe.

There's some eerie similarities between them: they both seemed to reject hard matches; both were plagued by a distictive weakness:

- Roy had a weak chin; it forced him to devise a strategy to protect it ( Ward did the same) where he would hit at a distance and avoid infighting; he most certainly used PEDS to achieve it ( it's tiring over the course of 12 rds) and his whole brash attitude seemed to be caused by "roid rage" in his fights ( hitting Montell Griffin on the floor ).

- Joe had bad hands: many people don't seem to realise Calzaghe fought nearly his entire career, since the Eubank fight, with bad hands. This is most certainly the reason he sometimes pulled out at the last minute . Some will call this " missing the bottle", altough i don't share their opinion. You have to be able to defend yourself in a ring with your fists; if they are continually injured, you run the risk of simply getting run down .

How would a fight go between them ?
Joe would need to close the distance because Roy was superior at a distance. He would need to press and cut the ring while avoiding Roy's left hook.

I believe Roy dominates the first half; once it gets into the later stages, Joe's work starts to pay off, he gets closer to Roy. I certainly give Joe a puncher's chance if the fight switches to close infighting/ ropes in these later stages, because he was a much deadlier infighter than Roy with a much better chin.

The longer the fight would go, the more chances to win for Joe

Joe would have found a way to beat Toney , taking advantage of his much superior footspeed.

Hopkins would have been a closer fight that is very hard to predict , considering the fact that when Bernard entered his best years, he was already 36 and had to switch to an old man counterpunching style, in contrast to his earlier attacking style, which left him open to counters ( first Mercado fight.)

 

yeah. cause you have to be GOOD to beat a prime Kessler and Hopkins