How Do You Beat Wlad?

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  1. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Please go view the tapes on the thread before you talk such stupid ass ****.
     
  2. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You got to it first.

    Prime Tyson is the prototype of exactly how to beat young Klitschko.
     
  3. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Yes he did.

    And Peter fight I never mentioned.

    Yes they do.

    Thompson was tired himself,not to mention his quality as a boxer and wilingness to win that fight went out the window after about 3 rounds.
     
  4. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree with the fact he will put in more of an effort than likes of washed up Rahman or disease ridden Chagaev, I'm just afraid he will turn into another undersized oppenent reduced to swallowing jabs on the outside for 4 or 5 rounds, until Wlad decides Povetkin's beat down enough mentally and physically to mount a decent attack at that point.

    Povetkin's toughness and workrate gives him a chance, but I certainly wouldn't go to vegas and place a bet on him either. I personally feel Haye would stand a much better chance against Wlad at this point, just my opinion though.
     
  5. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    I don't give a **** about Tony Tucker who did not fight ANYONE going into the Tyson fight and lost to every decent fighter he fought after that fight. The guy was mediocre.
     
  6. KobeIsGod

    KobeIsGod Who Necks?!? Full Member

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    I was using it as an example that he can fight effectively late in fights even in rough ones.

    and while Im a huge fan of Wlad, im not delusional. There's quite a few fighters I'd pick over Wlad.
     
  7. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    So despite the evidence you still think Klitschko has stamina issues? Unbelievable. Say what you want about his Chin but his stamina has improved greatly anyone with a brain can see that.
     
  8. BITCH ASS

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    You've never seen him fight.

    I made it so easy too.

    I put the tapes right on top of eachother for a comparison. You know, something you can do visually.

    It probably won't help you though, since you know jack **** about boxing.

    And THAT guy COULD beat Klitschko, and if he didn't he would definitely give Klitschko the hardest fight of his life up until this point.

    And that's giving Klitschko the benefit of the doubt considering he already had the hardest fight of his life 3 or 4 times.
     
  9. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Indeed it has.

    It went from disastrous to decent.

    If somebody would actually manage to stay in his face and pressure him again he would crumble again.
     
  10. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Evidence?

    You don't use evidence yourself. You use hearsay and bias.
     
  11. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    I have never seen him fight? LOL. I am not even going to debate this with you. I was watching Boxing when you were still pissing and shitting in your diapers.
     
  12. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Peter didn't get so excited when he had Wlad hurt or in panic mode, he would of been able to put him away. When he had Wlad hurt, he smothered his punches, instead of taking a step back and placing them properly. I still believe if there was another 30 seconds left in round 10, Wlad would of been knocked out.
     
  13. BITCH ASS

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    Yet you still don't know **** about the sport. That says a lot about you...

    Watch the tapes. I wanna see you comment so people can look at you say, and be like.......WTF?
     
  14. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    You don't know that. If my aunt had balls she would be my uncle. See how that goes? He had stamina issues and they have been corrected by his team.

    I get tired of all this "if so and so would do this against the Klitschko's" or "so and so just stood there and did not try and fight" etc.

    Don't you think it might just have to do with Klitschko improvements? Just maybe?

    If you are such a know it all why don't you go and train a fighter to beat Wlad since you clearly have all the answers.
     
  15. K-Man

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    It looked more like Thompson was winded from getting hit in the head, and Wlad was a bit tired from having to do it that often before he fell.

    TOS did NOT "pressure" Wlad, that is one of those daydreams the anti-Klitschko fanatics bring up. TOS -ran- from Wlad not allowing that one to plant for his jabs, so Klitschko looked bad in chasing TOS without being able to throw a punch. That is why TOS lost all of those rounds, even the one he floored Wlad in was a 9-9 on one card. Actually, TOS landed that knockdown for a simple trick - he ran and ran and ran, and then kept standing and instead threw a surprise punch when Wlad was just running into him. It wasn't even a damaging punch.

    Purrity simply outlasted him. He pressured in the meaning of at times trying to charge for Wlad in between of getting hit in the head with every combination in the book. But in the end, Wlad was simply totally winded, he had rubber legs from exhaustion before Purrity landed anything. The only other guy with that "strategy" who won was Brewster, and it earned him a detached retina from all the flush punches he took.

    Sanders was the only guy who won with legitimate skills outclassing Wlad. He read Wlads timing, and caught him with the mother of big counterpunches. Not "pressuring". He pressured when Wlad was on the ground twice already from counterpunching. You need reach, a heck of timing, speed, and fists of stone, which practically describes Sanders. That one even had mild success with that against Vitali, and is the only person to legitimately stun Klitschko Sr. running for safety in a boxing match.

    Finally, Peter tried to charge and pressure Wlad, but was beaten to a pulp, strangely in between of all those "panic attacks".

    So, the problem with all that is that ALL fighters who succeeded had a cast iron chin. Wlad learned the art of clinching to death when under pressure, so the Sanders approach is made MUCH more difficult. When hit big like from Peter, Wlad will run, hold, and as last resort take a knee to get out of the round. I would like to see what Haye does when Wlad, if he is really stunned heavily, just literally jumps on him doing the boxing version of a BJJ guard or a Muay Thai clinch, pulling Hayes head close with both arms in an iron grip. Or resorting to a take down lifting Haye off the ground.