How do you crack the Turtle Shell?

I'm a boxing novice, but I have a couple of thoughts about how to beat it.

1. Upprercuts. I think it's probably the single most effective punch against a turtle shell defense, and the most under-used punch in boxing.

2. A little shoeshine up top. Pivot to the side to give yourself a better angle, and then hammer your opponent to the body. Avoid getting caught with a counter by retreating or clinching. Repeat.
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Do like Tony Zale would - hit 'em in the arms!

Otherwise, if their going to simply cover up, you can score and move, they aren't going to be terribly offensive when their doing that.

Examples: Mosley-Wright II
Tarver-Jones I and III
Margarito-Clottey

 

you beat me to it :good


Turtle fighters want their opponents to come to them. They sit back defensively and let the opponent open up, when they see an opening then they shoot down at open targets.

What happens when you make a turtle fighter chase you and you make them be the 1st ones to punch? Then they become more vulnerable because you make them think Offense first Defense second when that is NOT what they want to do, because they prefer to think D first and O second.


Another perfect example is just look at Miguel Cotto vs Abdullaev. ABdullaev has a ******ed turtle defense. How did Cotto fight that fight? That was one of the more distinct strategies Cotto has used in a boxing match..What did he do? He back peddled 100% of the fight..Literally every second of the fight Cotto was moving and circling him, Once Abdulaev opened up, Cotto threw nothing but flurries and then would move. Therefore who looked like ****? Wasn't Cotto! It was Abdullaev because his strategy was rendered utterly worthless.

Thats simply how you do it, You don't have to waste energy punching their arms and trying to open them up, because you will ALWAYS Look bad swinging at arms connecting like 20% of your shots while Mr. Turtle is throwing 1/2 the output you are while he is landing 50-60%.

 

bang the body,, followed by a uppercut to pick up his chin and the hook shall follow:good

 

I was about to mention the rocky marciano method but someone has already beaten me to it. If you are a pressure fighter and volume puncher with power just keep throwing punches and hit the arms and shoulders, eventually, the hands will come down.


Quick movement is another, jones/toney was a great example because roy got off single shots quickly and didn't allow toney to really get set



Ultimately, it comes down to what style of fighter you are as to what strategy would be best






Sage

 

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Man, that's what you call a "*****" cat. No balls. A real cat would've killed that turtle.

 

he has to counter very well if this technique works.

hit a guy hard to the body and his hands will go down. a smart fighter who employs this technique however will think ahead and start to lead as you move into him at some point.

 

Yeah - Im in on the choir. Liver hooks, uppercuts and tactics. All dismantle the turtle shell defence.

 

high work rate.

 

If their in a turtle-shell defense (Wright is an example, so is Clottey), you need to throw combinations at what you can hit (between gloves, body-hooks, even the arms) and move.

They won't be able to be effective, thus, you can easily win a decision.

Easier said than done, but in theory, their workrate is going to suck if they do that.

Wright-Mosley II
Margarito-Clottey
Jones-Tarver I and III
Abraham-Miranda I
Johnson-Jones

 

Taylor's key weapon in that fight seemed to be to throw hard punches against Wright's gloves in such a manner as to make as loud a noise as possible. It seemed to work, too: Lampley was screaming about right hands that hit Winky's gloves.

A slightly more impressive method is to wrok the body and then come up the middle with uppercuts, although it would take a skilled boxer to do that against a counter-puncher like Abraham and not get brutalised. Still, Joe Frazier defeated the rope-a-dope with that approach.

Another method is to force the other boxer to lead and look for counter opportunities. This is how, if I remember correctly (I fell asleep several times) Hopkins beat Winky. Again, this necessitates the boxer being a very skilled one. This was also how Ali was able to humiliate Ernie Terrell so severely when Terrell's eye was injured (probably by an accidental thumb) and he adopted a peak-a-boo defence.

However, although it takes a very skilled boxer to dismantle a peak-a-boo defence, it also takes a pretty skilled one to pull it off. It also necessitates a few things that are hard to teach, like a cool head and a tactical instinct.