How Do You Define A Fighters Nationality

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Strongback, Oct 28, 2010.

  1. Commando

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    lol yea right. Anyways Mccllough was too scared to move up in weight, afraid of exposing his glass chin. That's why he stayed at the same weight his whole career. :bart
     
  2. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your obviously taking the ****.

    He fought for world titles at Bantam, super-bantam, Featherwieght, back down to super bantam, up to featherwieght, down again to superbantam before going back up to featherwieght again

    Your right, he did stay at the same weight his whole career
     
  3. Commando

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    Omg! A 5 pound difference, amazing!
     
  4. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    5lb? bantamweight is 118lb and featherweight is 126lb, when i went to school that was 8lb difference. Bottom line, whatever way you cut it, he was up and down 3 divisions fighting for world titles. What do you want him to do? Jump up to lightweight or welter, maybe even middle? Be realistic will you. As for having a glass chin, refer to the many threads about great chins and on every single one mcCullough gets a mention, and by people who know a hell of a lot more than you or i.
     
  5. rab

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    Just to add that Jimmy McLarnin did make a trip home and visited Belfast,so I think he was aware of his roots. But he did eventually take American citizenship.
     
  6. rab

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    Agree that in the Olympics they box as Ireland. However, in the Commonwealth Games they box as Northern Ireland.

    Re the civic reception thing I don't think there was any slight meant to Carruth. I'm thinkin that his own local council would have put on a civic reception for him as Belfast did for their local boy McCullough.
     
  7. MEXICAN

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    does it really matter? im a mexican but im a fan of pacman for ww and marquez for light feather....its their tenacity that i admire not nationality.
     
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  8. Bogotazo

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    Cultural identity matters more than on what piece of dirt in particular you fell out of your mother's vagina, and one can have several nationalities.

    Amir Khan is a first generation Brit, has afternoon tea, speaks english, was raised in Bolton, but he likely eats ****stani food, practices Islam, etc.

    De La Hoya speaks both english and spanish, and is accustomed to both US and Mexican culture.

    I don't see a reason why one would need to ignore half of a person's identity, or bring up birthplace as relevant in cases where it is unrelated to their cultural definition as a human.
     
  9. rab

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    Think the thread is about nationality.....not race.
     
  10. Italian Stallion

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    Whatever flag he officially fights for on BoxRec.
     
  11. WAR01

    WAR01 In the 7.2% Full Member

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    You ain’t claiming Griff that would be the worst atrocity Germany every committed!

    ....To me on a personal level
     
  12. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well in the case of the Irish, minimum requirement, if you own an Irish Setter.
     
  13. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Depends on your agenda.
     
  14. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When it comes to boxing in Ireland, its an island organised sport, like rugby.
    The fact that McCullough was a protestant N.Irish person wouldnt really influence who he fought for.

    He may not have sung the anthem or reconised the tricolour as his flag, but from a sporting persepective, he'd always have fought for "Ireland"
     
  15. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lewis is one of the most interesting ones.

    Born in UK, moved to Canada and grew up there and fighting on their Olympic team, before moving back to UK and representing the UK as a pro, while still heavily representing Jamaica.

    Has lived in the US for the past 20 years.

    At some point, you have to just recognise the fighter as an individual. They're pros. They're not fighting for a flag.