How do you define the term "pure boxer" and "boxer puncher"?

This is a good thread. Mention Pac and Floyd OST Chicken etc and you will get more results.

I agree with your points though. I would define a boxer puncher as anyone who doesn't rely too much on inside fighting and are able to use their power from outside to get their opponents respect.

I think what I just said agrees with your definition of boxer puncher. It was just stated in another way.

 

I have trouble figuring out the difference, but I'm sure you got i figured out. Floyd can be classified a boxer puncher though.
I'm confused on the term brawler though and who's a slugger and who's a swarmer

 

A pure boxer is someone who boxes pure, and a boxer puncher is someone who boxes punching.

 

A pure boxer to me would be a fighter who sets out to outbox his opponents, who doesn't carry much if any real knockout power at all, instead relies on technical and athletic ability to outmaneuver and outscore the opposition.

A boxer puncher to me is a fighter with the capacity to win fights in the same fashion as a pure boxer, but someone who also has considerable punching power.

 

A pure boxer is someone who purely boxes at long range, generally not that confortable on the inside, makes more use of the jab and tries to control distance and spacing. These type of fighters need more athletic ability, finese and movement as they will be moving and circling more often then not. They also tend to use their feet as part of their defense. They need more stamina as they will be going the distance more often and the best pure boxers are good strategists.

A boxer puncher is someone who can mix offense and defense, can fight on the inside, outside or mid range (although they generally have a stronger area). A good boxer puncher is more rounded then a pure boxer, more powerful and so can get a stoppage either with accumulation or with just a couple of punches.

These are in the best cases.

 

Agree on the Pure Boxer and Boxer Puncher definitions given in OP.

My opinions of:

Brawler: Someone who comes in, gets ugly and brings the heat.

Examples of Brawlers: Chris Arreolla, Ricardo Mayorga, Fernando Vargas


Slugger: Fighter who has only one tool in the tool box...a sledge hammer.

Examples of Sluggers: Arthur Abraham, David Tua, George Foreman

Swarmer: Fighter who is on you like stink on ****, dropping bombs and wild blows with indifference.

Examples of Swarmers: Harry Greb, Ricky Hatton, Sugar Ray Leonard

 

makes sense. Thanks for the insight. Maidana could be a slugger also I guess and Bradley is a boxer puncher as well as Khan

 

I wouldn't call Whitaker, Mayweather, and Holmes guys who stay on the outside and avoid brawls. They were adept in different styles, at different ranges.

Really, I'm not even totally sure what a "pure boxer" is. Much like in basketball, what exactly is a "pure shooter"? A really great one? Proper form (which eliminates Reggie Miller)?

 

I wouldn't include ALWAYS being outside as part of being a pure boxer. Floyd and Pernell are extremely good inside fighters.

Now you take a look at a boxer-puncher like emmanuel, he can't fight on the inside for ****.

Guys like Benny Leonard, Gene Tunney, and Pernell Whitaker come in mind when I think pure boxer. Money Mayweather is a pure boxer.

Sugar Ray Robinson, Joe Louis, and Muhammad Ali are boxer-punchers. Pretty Boy Floyd was a boxer-puncher.

 

What is Bernard Hopkins? He loves to fight at range but also loves to lunge in fight on the inside. Is he a boxer puncher?

 

I agree with the definitions but these two guys dont fit them at all.

 

I would consider him a boxer.

Bernard can fight on the inside, but he doesn't have a high level of activity or aggression like a swarmer. You won't see him brawling or slugging it out like boxer-punchers do sometimes.

He prefers a slow paced tactical chess match like a boxer. He has a great defense, one of the highest ring IQs, and doesn't brawl which are traits associated with boxers. He knows how to control the distance to set up his counters.

 

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHM3HmpATZs[/ame]

One of the better videos showing the differences between a boxer-puncher and pure boxer. The pure boxer makes his grand entrance at 7:25.

 

Yeah, at his age, he loves a slow pace fight where he can just circle and control the action. But he does like to lunge in once in a while and initiate a clinch and do some work on the inside. It depends on who his opponent is. If it's a guy who isn't good on the inside like Pavlik or he feels superior over his guy on the inside (RJ), then he will fight on the inside regularly. That goes against the term "boxer". But he does box most of the time. So i'm wondering what would be his proper classification.