How do you expect to beat the greatest puncher of all time fighting like this???

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    How do you expect to beat the greatest puncher of all time fighting like this???

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    Checkout the low gaurd and the chin sticking out



    This is what will happen vs Joe louis if you fight like that
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    Same thing with Vitali
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    Notice how he commits 3 cardinal sins of boxing...not keeping your hands up, leaning back to avoid the punch, and chin sticking out.



    what is the result of this??
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    You can expect the greatest puncher of all time...Joe Louis.....will capitlize on these huge flaws.. Now vitali and tunney are good fighters with there style against small fighters who don't have the tools to exploit this flaw. but a guy like louis...you can't make one mistake against him or your history.




    Its amazing how some people think vitali klitschko and gene tunney will beat joe louis. They both have major fundamental flaws that will be exposed big time by the greatest two fisted puncher we have ever seen.
     
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  2. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Most ATGs keep there hands down.

    Dempsey did it. Tunney did it, Ali did it, Even modren great Roy Jones Jr did it. If they have the speed to get away with it, than so be it. Its not that big of a deal with speed on your side.
     
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  3. teeto

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    Tunney would most definitely get beaten in a bout with Joe Louis.

    I picked Louis over Vitali also, but i do think he's a tough proposition.

    Stylistically, Tunney gets beat though, im a majot Tunney admirer also
     
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  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Vitali is a big guy who can box, and you never really know.

    But anyone hypothisising that he beats Joe based upon styles has a **** load of work to do. Because he's come nowhere near proving it, in the ring, during his career.
     
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  5. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Thats just it, its just not justifiable on evidence whatsoever.
     
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  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Save that pish for general, one thing has nothing to with the other in classic.

    SQ, who started the thread, is perhaps Peter's harshest critic.
     
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  7. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Let these few words be echoed loudly
     
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  8. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wellllll

    A faded Gene Tunney beat a faded Jack Dempsey twice, despite the latter being one of the greatest punchers of all time.

    It's debatable if the fight ending cut against Vitali was a fluke for Lennox, seeing as how the laces on the gloves probably tore his face open like that.

    Those two points alone highlight it isn't as simple a hypthetical match-up as "Fight A keeps his hands too low".

    Who in their right mind would think Ali, years past his best, would beat a peak George Foreman by laying on the ropes and letting him beat on him?

    Don't try and predict the most unpredictable sport of all time.
     
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  9. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    A faded Gene Tunney ?
     
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  10. klompton

    klompton Boxing Addict banned

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    a faded gene tunney??? tunney was at the absolute height of his prime when he defeated dempsey.
     
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  11. Mendoza

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    Agreed.
     
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  12. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    After almost 90 fights and the types of wars he'd been in with Greb, like the one he took that had him in a bed for days on end recovering?

    I don't think anyone could be considered in their prime after that. He had been preparing for Dempsey for years, but his absolute prime?
     
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  13. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Marciano beat louis...i dont here anyone claim marciano beat one of the greatest punchers of all time? fact remains dempsey was well past it, like louis
     
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  14. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Er, people consistently rank Marciano as one of the hardest HW hiters of all time...
     
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  15. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I dont know about Vitaly, but

    Many people would say that that is a picture of Tunney beating the greatest puncher of all time.:admin
     
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