How do you feel about Roy jones?

Find me a quote from Lennox that states that he wanted to fight Roy, but Roy wouldn't sign.

Lewis was talking about having 3 or more fights before Vitali. Roy was supposed to be easy work for huge money, and the Vitali rematch was supposed to be on. But then he decided to retire.

Keep talking about his glass jaw, because it just makes you look stupid.

What was a glass jawed 35 year old LHW doing, fighting Ruiz and having talks with Lewis?

Name the three continents where Roy had his jaw shattered, Einstein.

 

Rico, Roy was not a natural HW... And in the Era, there were multiple skilled mammoth HWs..

It would have been stupid for Roy to stay there and just take on whatever mandatory they threw in front of him.. It is obvious to fight there, he had to have the right fights, for the right amount of money.. He was thinking about retirement at that point, and wanted to cash in on a big fight.

To call Jones a fraud is way too harsh and you know it.. The simple fact that he even won a belt at HW is an amazing achievement. Frauds can't do that.:-(

 

No one was talking about Roy's "glass jaw" after he beat Ruiz.. And yes, from the comments I have read from Lewis, he viewed Roy as a legitimate threat, as did Manny Steward. That right there goes to show how great Roy was in my opinion, that geniuses of the sport thought Roy had a chance against Lewis..

It is easy for people to sit behind the keyboard with 20-20 hindsight and laugh. But it just was not the case at the time.

I have also never heard of a glass jaw case where the fighter is finally exposed at age 36 after 50 fights and 5 weight classes.. To me it would seem that his chin deteriorated with his athletic ability. Or that he was just so damn good he didn't take any punches for 15 years.. But I saw him hit many times much harder than some of the shots that knocked him out nearing his 40's.. Either way, his achievements are amazing.

 

Never been dominated? He got dominated by jones...

 

I don't give a **** what you have read that was written by some moronic boxing writer, or indeed invented yourself.

Either show video footage of Lennox Lewis saying on camera Jones was a legitimate threat or stfu with your revisionist fanboyism.

Don't confuse class and breeding ( as opposed to big mouthed, pea brained Yanks ) with hype.

I can well imagine Lewis saying Jones deserved respect for getting the win over Ruiz, but to say he stated Roid Jones was a threat to him personally is delusional.

Lewis considered Ruiz as so insignificant, he wouldn't even consider him for sparring.

 

There are INTERPRETATIONS of rules, and many refs interpret them in different ways. Often inconsistently.

Before you start trying to patronise other posters, spend some time researching how bad, and inconsistent ( particularly Yank referees ) actually are.

What they allow a particularly favourite fighter to get away with for an entire fight, they will warn, and threaten another fighter with a DQ for doing inside 2 rounds.

Conversely if the favoured fighter needs what they consider protection from someone who might stultify their style, they will give said protection by continually interfering, and breaking the aggressors rhythm.

 

yes, absolutely. it's always the yank refs. nady was clearly favoring the american fighter jones vs the .....uh...american fighter ruiz. brit refs are the worst. if you seen the montage of calzaghe stoppages and the last chisora fight it's quite embarrassing. there's more legit pro wrestling refs.

 

Great post! :good

 

Yeah, all the links that's been posted, that includes Manny's comments, have all been fabricated. atsch

You want proof that Lewis saw him as a threat?

Pre Vitali, Lennox was up for having 3 or more fights, and he gave respect to Roy, but thought it was a bridge too far for him. He thought that Roy would be easy work for huge money.

Post Vitali, he RETIRED!

He never thought he was going to struggle with Vitali like he did, and he knew it was time to let go.

He said he was looking to fight on, then walked away from Roy and a Vitali rematch, that would have made him millions and millions of dollars.

If he thought that Roy had've been easy work, for huge money, AFTER Vitali, then he wouldn't have hung them up.

Keep hating!

 

Loudon

You seem to post with what you think rather than facts. You often note what fighters were thinking which you wouldnt know, what they were thinking, only the fighters in question would. This is why I often dont take many of your posts seriously.
People may not always agree, but if they can produce facts we have to take a step back. Whaen someone produces a fact to you, you then start coming out with what the fighter in question really wanted to do (which is just your opinion) and seeming to try and bend things to suit what you want it to be.

Stick to facts

 

I have never posted them before and if you had you would not of claimed that Lewis wanted to retire instead of facing Jones

How do you know it was Lewis who walked away? Who is most likely to walk away from that fight, shw Lewis or Roy Jones?
HEALTH OF VITALI'S EYE KEY TO LEWIS REMATCH

BOXING: pounds 170m purse lures Lennox

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Valid point

 

That's silly.

Plenty of fighters have entered into fights which they had no intention of making. Saying you want to fight someone and actually signing the contract is 2 very different things.

It was Roy Jones who moved down saying that HW fights were not worth the risk, which is why he never fought another HW. No case can be made for Lewis being reluctant to fight an opponent much smaller than himself. On the flip side where are the massive punchers on Jones's resume? You notice he always tended to "miss" those guys. McClellan? Jackson? Tua?

Lewis did not officially retire until early 2004. If Jones was really serious about fighting him he would of stayed at HW until Lewis retired.

 

After beating Ruiz, Jones was given 6 months to make a title defense against the highest ranked wba challenger. It would of been Vitali, but Vitali would vacate his spot to fight for Lewis's wbc belt.

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The second highest challenger after that was no 2 Tua, who started caling him out

Boxing: Tua pushing for WBA title fight against Jones

Wednesday Jun 11, 2003

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=3506862


Jones in mid August would decide to move down to fight Tarver
DAVID NOT TUA HAPPY WITH JONES

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/sports/david-tua-happy-jones-article-1.527197#ixzz2bf0o2aEP

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/sports/david-tua-happy-jones-article-1.527197


The wba would drag their feet but they would eventually bump up Tua to be Jones's no 1 mandatory

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=3521299

With Jones refusing to defend his belt against the highest ranked challenger the wba would declare the belt vacant and the proposed Rahman-Tua fight was for the vacant belt

Boxing: Tua-Rahman fight will definitely go ahead, says Barry

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=3521299

Jones would threaten to sue if they stripped him

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2003-09-14/sports/0309140073_1_david-tua-rahman-mandalay-bay-hotel

The wba would back down and the proposed Tua-Rahman fight would only be for the interim belt instead. During talks Tua would notice financial irregularities and drop out of the fight to sue his financial handlers. Rahman would then go on to fight Ruiz for the interim belt. Ruiz would win. After beating Tarver Jones would then vacate the wba belt and Ruiz became the full wba champion again.

True.
Saunders was all wrong for him

 

He hung them up because he was going to get stripped for not fighting Vitali again. He basically retired weeks before the wbc deadline