How do you feel about Toney vs McCallum II's decision?

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  1. Boo! McCallum robbed!

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  2. Toney won this one fair,wdym?

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  3. Very close,a draw.

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  4. I got McCallum winning but it's close,no robbery.

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  1. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Do you have round by round scoring because I thought it was a pretty clear win for Toney while the second one was much closer
     
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  2. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Really? That’s interesting because I’ve seen YouTube videos where they dissect the fight …and they call it a brilliant performance by Toney
     
  3. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Really? That’s interesting…even Mike Mccallum himself said that Toney was better the second time around…because he taught him a lot
     
  4. jabber74

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    Thought at the time that McCallum should have gotten the decision, close, but that he had gotten the short end of the stick. I remember talking about the fight the next day with my dad, and he wasn't so sure McCallum won it.

    The first two were close, competitive fights. Many thought Toney got robbed the first time, but when I watched it, I thought McCallum won it.
    The only definitive fight was the third but by then McCallum was at the end of the trail.
     
  5. bolo specialist

    bolo specialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are you asking about the 1st or 2nd fight? I was only really discussing the 2nd fight in my post.

    Either way, I don't have a rbr handy.
     
  6. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah,I just looked upon who's work really controls the action and the pace.
    Sometimes Mike's jabs and body work controls the fight good as Toney struggles to land something significant,then by another round Toney actually counters most good combinations Mike would do and steal the control.

    Very technical fight.
     
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  7. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Oh I thought you were talking about the first mb all good then!
     
  8. themaster458

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    Just rewatched the fight because of this thread and here's how I scored it pretty much even fight that Toney won because of the point deduction but a lot of really close rounds that could have gone either way but McCallum would have to win 7 rounds to get the decision and I really don't see him winning that many.


    James Toney vs Mike McCallum II

    Round 1 10-9 McCallum

    Round 2 9-10 Toney

    Round 3 10-9 Toney

    Round 4 10-9 Toney

    Round 5 10-9 Toney

    Round 6 10-9 McCallum (close)

    Round 7 10-9 Toney

    Round 8 9-9 McCallum

    Round 9 10-9 McCallum

    Round 10 10-9 McCallum

    Round 11 9-10 Toney

    Round 12 9-10 McCallum (close)

    114-113 Toney
     
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  9. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 banned Full Member

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    Pretty sure I gave both to Toney on damage, those were his baptisms those fights. JT is the most incredible fighter we’ve had since probably the 60s-70s, before him it was Napoles, Eder and Griffith that were that skilled off the top of my head, I don’t think Toney faced anyone as skilled as MM after those bouts, small wonder he says he’s the only fighter he respects.
     
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