How do you feel Foreman would do against...

Foreman nuthuggers getting viciously stomped out in this thread. :deal

 

Vitalis **** stained resume is full of nothing but BUMS

Please explain how tomato can Albert Sosnowski, ancient semi retired Corrie Sanders, LHW bum Tomasz Adamek, and a shot Sam Peter stack up to Foreman's best wins?

Vitali hasn't ever beaten anyone on the level of Gerry Cooney let alone Frazier or Norton

Foreman would bloody up Vitali's face and disfigure it beyond recognition ... Vitali doesn't even have the testicular fortitude to fight David Gaye

 

Quitallis is currently DUCKING a cruiser BUM in David Haye

 

Are we using old crippled Vitali or prime Vitali? Foreman was getting boxing autopsy's against Tommy Morrison and Axel Schulz, in his comeback. Lets be objective here.

Gerry Cooney was a can with a lights out left hook that made his name beating old fighters.

Frazier was a great win regardless of styles but Norton got knocked the **** out against every puncher he ever fought.

Bull**** is Foreman's record any better than Vitali's.

 

Haye has been offered numerous contracts and turned them down. He has also done absolutely **** all to earn a title shot after running away from Wlad for twelves rounds.

 

Sam Peter was shot in 2008? What? Get Tyson's **** out of your mouth, you idiot. You sound crazy.

 

No inside game? Please. Foreman's short uppercuts were murder. But inside fighting does not matter much here.

This was not a championship fight. Nothing Frazier or Norton or Ali landed early on Foreman even fazed his attack.

In a word, Vitali lacks the toughness to survive Foreman. Are you saying Sanders hits harder than Foreman?

This nugget puts your views in perspective.

Perspective, my friend, perspective. Pre-championship falls are not the same as performance in fighting for the title because of one word: development. Jones never knocked Clay down. It was Banks when Clay was developing; ditto for Cooper. The historical record says Sonny Liston, George Foreman, Joe Frazier and Earnie Shavers flailed uselessly on Ali and lost. You will not gain credibility by diminishing Ali's proven durability or baselessly elevating Vitali's.

In his own championship fights (when a fighter must be at his best) Vitali lost to an old, out-of-shape, overconfident champion. And, hey, I watched the fight: a beached whale in Corrie Sanders, with no condition whatsoever, with one lone freaking trick in his bag, had Vitali stumbling all over the place several times over 8 rounds. Vitali quit with victory within reach against Byrd. Spin is useless. Vitali quit. His toughness is less than all-time great.

On the other hand, Foreman toughed it out and stopped Lyle in a true shoot-out.

Foreman is tougher than Vitali. Ali is much tougher than Vitali.

Ali moved, pulled back on the ropes, blocked with his arms and took Foreman's wallops for 8 rounds. Vitali has never seen the day he could do anything of the sort.

Besides dominating a poor era, Vitali has shown nothing, nothing, that merits placing him alongside Ali or Foreman.

 

No, Haye has heavyweight dimensions. Many cruisers are actually over 200 lbs in the ring. And Haye is definitely not a bum, unlike Foreman's opponents who were literally no-hoper cruiserweight bums with no significant wins or more losses than wins on their record.

 

You seem to ignore history, my friend.

 

Foreman quit the sport entirely after the mind**** that was losing to Ali, not before going life and death with Lyle and doing god know's what against Young. A fight in which he was knocked down in. He is much tougher than Vitali though...

 

You must have Foreman confused with someone else.

Ali stopped him in his tracks too. Lyle nearly knocked him out and if Lyle was better than C level, he would have knocked him out.

Are you saying that Foreman is a quick-handed southpaw?

Jones very nearly knocked Clay down in the first round, with the ropes holding him up, and rocked him badly several times. I see you have a lot of excuses when the inconsistencies in your arguments are pointed out.

Interesting. So according to you, Sanders had Vitali on ***** street several times, yet Vitali won the fight. So didn't Vitali tough it out? Honestly, you're just embarrassing yourself with this ****.

 

I WATCHED Lewis disregard Vitali in an interview prior to the fight. Nothing theoretical about it. And actions speak louder than words: Lewis took the fight with two weeks notice and came in the heaviest of his career. No way around it; Lewis underestimated Vitali. Do not try to rewrite history.

Lewis was a year removed from beating Tyson, and looked like **** in comparison.

None. Lewis showed up fat, untrained and overconfident.

Compare his swift jabs and combinations against Tyson and his plodding against Vitali. If this is theoretical and illogical to you, you need to learn to watch boxing.

Every generation has bums. In his title shot, Foreman was infinitely more impressive than Vitali in his.

Big nugget.

That is what historical analysis is for, bud.

First, Frazier beats Tua, a fighter of the steroid era. And Marciano, despite the 50-pound disadvantage, could well beat the one-dimensional Tua as well. This is what all-time greats can do. Not magically. Watch the film and try to disregard the black and white.

You seem to put stock in Vitali's size, as though it would make him immune to Foreman. It wouldn't.

Watch what even an old Foreman did to the huge, big-punching Gerry Cooney. No fighting safely behind a jab, dependent on size. George just came at you and went to work.

I see Foreman steamrolling Vitali.

 

This is where you lack credibility. You completely ignore perspective. You cannot compare a fighter's performance when fighting for the title--which must be him at his best--and a subpar appearance result of overconfidence as a champion.

No benefit is extended Vitali for losing to the best fighter he ever fought, with the title on the line. George Foreman himself in the broadcast was begging Vitali to suck it up and take the title. Vitali didn't.

Keep the nuggets coming!

No, you are wrong. Foreman's KO percentage (92%) was higher than Vitali's (87%), UNTIL he ran into Ali, a guy he was expected to perhaps kill. This is the historical perspective.

Thanks for the chuckle! Right hands and combinations are forbidden for you?

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My pleasure! Just for starters--in Round 1--please peruse 10:56 and 11:06.

And, again, historically speaking, Sanders was conditioned like ****.

 

OK. Time for the truth.

We are comparing two different eras.

Vitali is a fighter of the steroid era. Foreman fought in an era when fighters were not 'roided.

And he stills takes Vitali.

 

How many weeks notice did Vitali have?

Lewis, Louis, and Frazier are considered all-time greats and they all lost by KO in or near their primes. That's what all-time greats can do. You're hiding behind this bull**** rhetoric and ignoring styles.

Cooney was a one-handed drunken garbageman and he was done by the time that Foreman fought him. Why don't you analyze Foreman's weaknesses for a change? You know, so as not to look too biased.

He steamrolled a grand total of 2 non-garbage level fighters in his career. There is no reason to believe that Vitali would be the third.