How Do You Fight A Prime ATG?

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  1. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Those of you who criticize Floyd explain this to me....

    How do you fight an ATG in their prime, don't they have to have an accomplished career first before they are considered an ATG? And if they are considered an ATG don't they then get called past prime when they lose to Floyd? Let me show you how it go, if Floyd gets them earlier you call them green, if he gets them after they have accomplished something you call them past it. He can't win when haters control the scale!

    Also, how many prime ATG's are running around at any particular time? Khan, Thurman, Garcia, Brook...are they prime ATG's? And if you by some chance think they are I bet they won't be considered as such if they get the #50 golden ticket! They'll go right back to Green and Past-it status!

    So for those claiming Floyd never fought a prime ATG, school is in session and you just got schooled. The only active ATG is Floyd and he has been past prime for years now! So does whoever beat him get no credit....He past-it right?
     
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  2. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Genaro Hernandez - accomplished ATG, called past it when he loss to Floyd, it was his first loss at 130.

    Hatton- accomplished ATG, called past prime and not at his best when he loss to Floyd. His first loss

    Cotto - current middleweight champion and ATG - called past it when he loss to Floyd but somehow is now at his best again.

    Alvarez - called the future of boxing, current biggest attraction but called Green after losing to Floyd though he has 40 fights already.

    Pacquiao -accomplished ATG but called past it when losing to Floyd though Floyd is older!

    Marquez-accomplished ATG, called out Floyd to prove whose the best - called past it, old, overweight after losing to Floyd but an ATG when beating Pacquiao at the same weight and years later.

    Mosley - accomplished ATG but called past it when losing to Floyd though coming off best performance of his career over Margarito

    De La Hoya - according to these boards Oscar is the greatest thing since sliced bread, dragged Floyd up to 154, all stipulations against him and still loss. And what happened next...proclaim he past prime!

    Corrales- biggest threat in the division, gets destroyed by Floyd, gets to use distracted going to jail and Green excuse though Floyd had the same exact issue during the Cotto fight. Difference is Floyd still won
     
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  3. jesse

    jesse Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Today's generation puts everything under a huge microscope and exaggerates every detail. Imagine...

    "Ali got dropped by Cooper, glass jawed bum" "he's packing glass"

    "Joe Louis destroys only bums and has a paper machete chin"

    "SRR beat bloated former FW hank Armstrong big deal"
     
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  4. schooling

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    How could Floyd of fought a prime ATG is the question right?

    He could of fought Manny Pacqauio 2009 after he stopped cotto he was not only a prime atg he was the p4p king

    so yea Floyd could of fought one.
     
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  5. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not when the other guy is ducking drug test...and yes Salt Waters own trainer confirms this
     
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  6. jesse

    jesse Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He could have if Bob & puppet manny didn't walk from 5050..Mayweather signed your man didn't. Wise words from trainer of the year..."yeah...it was kinda our fault the fight didn't happen"
     
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  7. schooling

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    I don't care you asked a question how could he have fought one i answered you

    If he really wanted the fight he could fought him like how he fought oscar,hatton with normal testing

    You honestly think if Floyd asked for the standard testing at that time the fight would not of happened?
     
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  8. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    he dont be fightin no atg. you be talkin crazy bout what he do.
     
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  9. jesse

    jesse Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Of course u don't care, just avoid the elephant in the room no problem bud. Ignore facts
     
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  10. schooling

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    He asked how could Floyd of fought a prime ATG i gave him the reply

    If floyd never asked for rbt testing which was not customary at that time the fight would of happened everything was agreed it was only that issue which caused the dispute
     
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  11. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    how can he fight #48 if he won't sign the contract? And we know an excuse would of been made had he loss cause May 2nd proves it, nothing but excuses
     
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  12. schooling

    schooling Guest

    The point is floyd could of fought one but decided to put added conditions.

    Again i will say if Floyd never requested RBT which was not customary at that time the fight would of got made notice how Pac did not care if Mayweather was roiding he just wanted to fight.
     
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  13. schooling

    schooling Guest

    Actually go back and read Pac agreed and signed of on everything it was only the testing which caused the issue.

    Mayweather should of fought Pac like how he fought hatton,oscar ext
     
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  14. icarus1

    icarus1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    fight with good offense to dominate. all great fights are competitions of better offense, strength, heart, resilience, and toughness. not on cheating, complaining, and extreme defense just to avoid making a fight and finish the bout prettily.
     
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  15. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Manny unfortunately showed every sign of juicing and balked at proving he was clean, what's more important, fighting Floyd or proving You are a clean athlete? The fact that Pac now requests OST proves he ducked up the fight not Floyd!
     
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