How Do You Fight A Prime ATG?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Code Red, Sep 13, 2015.


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  1. schooling

    schooling Guest

    code can you honestly say the names he has fought are better then the ones he did not here...


    Should of fought Margartio but he fought baldo

    should of fought cotto/williams but he fought judah

    should of fought martinez but he fought ortiz

    should of fought a prime Pac but fought a shot mosley

    should of fought a prime mosley but he fought mitchel
     
    schooling, Sep 13, 2015
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  2. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's always if Floyd beats this guy then.......etc...y'all been saying that since Oscar and you still don't give him credit. He has defeated all your favorite fighters plus some. And even at 38 no one still comes close to defeating him
     
    Code Red, Sep 13, 2015
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  3. schooling

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    Agreed i always said when Floyd retired and let all the other ww's beat each other up and for him to come back with only Pac standing was a smart move
     
    schooling, Sep 13, 2015
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  4. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Isn't the point to fight highly ranked opponents in their prime and let the results, the relevant respective records over time and history take care of the ATG bit?

    If you're not doing the in bold above then you're not giving yourself the chance to have history reflect the same.
     
    Man_Machine, Sep 13, 2015
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  5. schooling

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    Ok ortiz was a tougher fight then sergio martinez 2011

    what about cotto/williams instead of judah

    prime mosley instead of mitchel?

    You honeslty can say floyd fought the tougher fights?
     
    schooling, Sep 13, 2015
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  6. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The question remains, who is a prime ATG that Floyd didn't fight?
     
    Code Red, Sep 13, 2015
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  7. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And you think in his B side days Floyd could fight whoever, whenever? Floyd begged for fights with A side's all the way till 2007, these guys you call prime didn't fight him not the other way around.
     
    Code Red, Sep 13, 2015
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  8. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Here's the Ring Top 10 Ratings, from 1998 to 2006.

    http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_1998
    http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_1999
    http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_2000
    http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_2001
    http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_2002
    http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_2003
    http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_2004
    http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_2005
    http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_2006

    Do you notice anything? Oscar was several weight classes higher than Floyd. The only time the fight could have happened was 2006 or 2007, unless Floyd skipped divisions.
     
    VG_Addict, Sep 13, 2015
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  9. schooling

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    Floyd had the chance to fight the p4p king and a atg in his prime but rather then just fighting him with the customary testing he came up with RBT which complicated everything.

    Pac did not care about if floyd was on roids he just wanted to fight how come floyd did have this attitude ?
     
    schooling, Sep 13, 2015
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  10. schooling

    schooling Guest

    Floyd did have a chance to fight a atg in his prime his name is manny pacqauio heard of him?

    He could of just fought him the way he fought hatton,oscar but no he asked for something not customary but thats not the point the fact is he did have the chance to fight a prime atg
     
    schooling, Sep 13, 2015
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  11. BingM3

    BingM3 Active Member Full Member

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    Hatton ATG,hell no...
    ATG,fight the best at their primes.
    So a bum beat Tyson past his prime, so mr nobody is Atg?
     
    BingM3, Sep 13, 2015
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  12. jonze86

    jonze86 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd is One of my favourites,i'm not still blind.

    Man has great resume and great career,however it could have Been even greater.

    I don't say it's a shame,but it's obvious Floyd has matched him carefully after ODLH.and also have defended Floyd manytimes,that in prizefighting it probably made the most sense.

    But let's atleast stop pretending Floyd fought actively against the best.it's just not the case.not Floyd fault always.but it's just the truth.
     
    jonze86, Sep 13, 2015
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  13. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I said OTHER THAN Pacquiao, dip****.
     
    VG_Addict, Sep 13, 2015
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  14. schooling

    schooling Guest

    prime mosley prime dela hoya
     
    schooling, Sep 13, 2015
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  15. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    You have to get ko'd by a Torrecampo level fighter. Then, you have to lose by bodyshot from a Singsurat type fighter. Then you have to take a Hussein jab, take HGH, and wait for guys like Morales and Barrera to beat each others heads in and claim they are prime lol... Then get knocked unconscious by a Marquez level fighter.:lol:
     
    BlizzyBlizz, Sep 13, 2015
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