How do you fight Ernie Shavers

Do what Quarry did and you'll knock him out in one round. Fact.

 

good question. holmes stayed OUTSIDE it but still fell victim to a long overhand right. you had to destroy him like quarry, outlast him like lyle, or outjab and outbox him like holmes. not easy in any case

 

Simple... You box him... Pump a solid jab while using some decent lateral movement and tie the man up as he rushes in on you... Keeping a mother like Shavers at bay is the key... Plus, aside from his '77 effort against a fading Ali, Shavers has never displayed great stamina... Keeping Shavers at bay with a solid jab while mixing in some crosses, hooks and uppercuts will take its toll... After 6 or 7 rds or so, Shavers appears spent and is looking for a place to fall.....

MR.BILL

NOTE:

I love Ol' Earnie Shavers, but he only really KO'd a buncha' ham and eggers during his lengthy career... His only "A" grade KO's came against chinny dude's like "Ellis & Norton." Shavers himself was generally beaten / KO'd by his "A" opponents....

 

For somebody without extraordinary talent, durability or physical advantages to pull this off, crafty Bob Stallings might be the definitive authority on how to beat Earnie, being somewhat a latter day version of Ted Lowry. Went the distance with Lyle (Ron's first match after JQ dropped him from the unbeaten ranks), scored an SD over Mac Foster (Mac's third defeat after JQ and Ali), dropped a disputed SD to 12-0-0 Buster Mathis in a rematch, and went the distance with the then unbeaten Blue Lewis in their middle bout, as well as the eight round limit by a 7-0-0 Tiger Williams. Handed Wepner his first defeat.

Bob was stopped no less than eight times, twice by the aforementioned Lewis, also by southpaw veteran Jack Bodell and stylists Henry Clark and Larry Middleton. Judging by his record and history though, size, strength and power don't seem to have intimidated him much. Like Jerry Quarry, he may have drawn reassurance and confidence from the realization he wouldn't have difficulty getting to his man. Stallings is somebody who I imagine might have avoided Ali like the plague, but may have salivated at the thought of getting Foreman in the ring. In his autobiography, Earnie simply refers to Bob as "slick."

I suspect Stallings-Shavers more than any other match is the bout to look at when crafting a hypothetical plan for defeating Earnie without a height or reach advantage. (In his first effort after losing to Bob, Shavers drew in his rematch with the much less experienced Young. But where Jimmy had to come off the deck in round four to rally, Stallings himself floored Earnie in the ninth.)

Playing sandlot tackle football as a kid, I was a slow, skinny, uncoordinated little runt. I was also too stupid to be afraid, so I deliberately targeted the biggest, strongest kids participating, the ones everybody else was afraid of challenging. When these bullies carried the ball, I went after them, and was the only one to consistently tackle them one-on-one. They were the ones easiest for me to get to, and surprisingly easy for me to bring down, maybe because they weren't used to being fearlessly challenged. I've always thought of Foreman as one of those big strong slow ball carriers, and Jerry Quarry as the little tackler George didn't want to be caught on the same field with. (And it wouldn't surprise me in the least if Stallings was one of those trial horses Foreman wanted nothing to do with on the way up for the same reason.)

Stallings and Shavers never had a rematch, and I suspect that was more Earnie's choice, considering how Bob got in the ring with Blue Lewis three times, Mac Foster, Turnbow, a young Mathis 2X, and Larry Alexander. Shavers-Stallings II would've been an interesting and worthy return main event for the Felt Forum.

 

Or use an invisible banana peel, like Stallings. :conf

 

:bananamaniac:bananaDammit BE, I promised Bob we wouldn't tell his secret!

 

Absorb the power and counter. Watch his fight with Foster and you'll see the same situation. That right hand in the 6th round would have at least dropped almost any other HW but Jerry just took it and fired back. The rest is history. Jerry Boy was one stubborn *******.:bbb

 

:rofl Dammit, D. I'm sorry. If I'd known what was taking place while I was typing that...

 

Another good idea is to simply not afford Earnie an opportunity to unload first, like Norton foolishly made the mistake of allowing. Overlooked in how Shavers wiped out Ellis is that Jimmy had him going in the corner at the time, attempting to pull off a starching of his own. Earnie's timely clinch induced the referee to initiate the fight winning break, creating the separation and opening Shavers needed to unload that right uppercut. But Ellis did get the jump on him, showing Jerry the way. (And JQ had already demonstrated with Daniels, Corletti, Bodell, and in the first round of his title shot at Frazier, that he was perfectly capable of blasting away right out of the gate.)

 

Ehhh...forget about it.

I've got no problems posting on a thread about how to fight Shavers. (Matching wits with YOU, on the other hand:scaredas:...I'll leave that one to crackheads and other idiot kids who just don't know any better.:bolt)

 

Reading Duodenum's stuff , not just in this thread , 1 might get d impression that Ezzard Charles and Arnold Cream were contemplating a comeback when they saw George Foreman become a champion . Easy night's work , they must have felt .

 

You fight Shavers way Lyle, Ron Stander, Bob Stallings, Larry Holmes, Jerry Quarry, and tex Cobb did. 5 of 6 ko'd him, Stallings had him running for his life in decision win.

 

Stalings fight recap.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...pg=4636,774091&dq=bob-stallings+shavers&hl=en