How do you figure Cotto's gone?

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  1. newby johnson

    newby johnson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's taken two, three if you count Clottey, beatings, and that is cause to wonder what his mental state is like, but after Margo there were no signs that he's not the same anymore. He fought like hell against Clottey in spite of the cut and he lost to Pac who's just plain better.

    There's cause for suspicion but that's all, yet a lot of people act as if he's finished. Why is that?
     
  2. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I thought there were, newby. I thought there were.
     
  3. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    Once a boxers love for the sport is gone...it's time to go. Thats not saying he has nothing left...but these hard beatings will have taken an effect on him mentally. If he could get that winning mentality and love for the sport back...
     
  4. ant

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    i noticed a difference compare to earlier fights when he got knocked down and hurt he came back swinging but against pac he started to hide and he did it quite a bit against clottey and was worried about openin up fully against jennings maybe its a mental thing he just needs to sort out
     
  5. jlrivera81

    jlrivera81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah, this is a tough one. In my opinion, miguel's situation is tougher than just dealing with his losses. Not only has he last badly to marg and pac, but one has to wonder where his mind is at with all the turmoil that went on b/w him and his uncle and the fact that his father died suddenly. That in itself is enough to make any lesser man mentally collapse.

    I believe that physically, Cotto still has all the tools to be a world-class fighter. He needs to go back to his seek and destroy style (i.e. quintana & judah)
     
  6. bazza12

    bazza12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree with this.
    Cotto used to enjoy wars, watch Torres, Corley etc, he didn't mind getting involved. Even for most of the Margarito fight, Cotto planted his feet and traded with him.
    After Margarito, against Clottey, he got cut, which obviously hampered him, but instead of going after Clottey when Clottey wasn't even throwing, he backed off. Against Pacquiao, after 4 rounds, he just retreated and took a slow, brutal beatdown. He accepted defeat before the halfway stage, something i never thought Cotto would do.
    Before Margarito, if Cotto was going out he was going out on his shield, after, he seemed reluctant to trade for too long.
    The mental affects are definatley there to be seen. Nonetheless, i hope he wins tomorrow as much as anyone else, he is one of my favourite boxers of any time.
     
  7. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He's fighting better competition. He's not washed up. He's still the same ole Cotto wit the same strengths and weaknesses.
     
  8. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's took alot more punishment than those fights you mentioned. Anyways he changed midway through the Shane fight. When he realized he could hit a guy with everything he had and he was still there. I think this is a major mental block for him wanting to be a destroyer.
     
  9. truewarrior

    truewarrior Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cotto is what I call short glimpse at the past. Without a doubt he has one of the best resumes in the game today. Hes not making 30million to fight Pacquiao and putting restrictions. Hes not ducking the high risk, low reward guys, hes fighting the best. He doesnt have a coach that hand picks his opponents or a promoter. After all his ring wars I would assure you that any boxer would have some abilities diminished by this point in his career.
     
  10. newby johnson

    newby johnson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Interesting idea.
     
  11. RobertV77

    RobertV77 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Explain how his resume is so strong, Gomez, Jennings? He's finally stepped up after years of carefully selected opponents and he has hit a wall.
     
  12. homebrand

    homebrand Well-Known Member Full Member

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    you talk too much sense for this forum.
     
  13. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    A Cotto-hater definitely would prefer to stick with this view, NBA. :yep
     
  14. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There are signs he's not the same, but I wouldn't classify the Clottey fight as a beating. He had to stay away because of the cut. Not because he was getting pummeled.

    I mean, he has been facing bigger stronger guys for the most part(Pac excluded), and he can't pressure and bully them like he did the smaller guys. To me, its as simple as that.