How do you judge a fight?

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  1. Dementia Pugulistica

    Dementia Pugulistica Active Member Full Member

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    I get your point and am sure there is a logical reason why the 10 - 9 thing is common. It can really kill any chance of the other guy winning when he is constantly just losing the rounds. I've seen many fights that are close competitive fights, but still one guy loses every round. Doesn't really tell the story of the fight if you didn't see it.
     
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  2. Dementia Pugulistica

    Dementia Pugulistica Active Member Full Member

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    Unfortunately you can't. That's why you see judges sometimes "giving" a round to a fighter sometimes.
     
  3. Dementia Pugulistica

    Dementia Pugulistica Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah, a truly legitimate sport would have conflict of interest protocols.
     
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  4. Badbot

    Badbot Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think it was Teddy Atlas whom I heard talk about this. He sounded kinda heartbroken about it, but also had come to accept it(which is a given as he has spent his entire life in the sport).
    He actually said what you did. Imagine something like this happening in any major league sport in the U.S!
    FFS, congress would likely step in :lol:

    But boxing? Nah. All good fam.
    Oh, you've sparred a few times, mind refereeing an amateur bout? Oh, you've refereed a few amateur bouts, mind doing some judging? How about a pro bout? Hey, we have this title fight we´d like you to judge. Hey man, how about some nice dinner before tomorrows big night? That? Oh, that is Lucille, she is real nice :naughty2:

    And I ain´t even kidding. This how it works. You can start your way from literally nothing in boxing and work to the top. All the while receiving little actual education and guidance. A single ****ing seminar on ones duties does not ****ing cut it. (which is kinda how they do it here)

    I would sue the **** out of everyone if I found out my opponents promoter pulled this ****. Hell, if I had money, I would make sure to find out just to go all out. No matter if the case is actually winnable. This **** has to be heard.
     
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  5. Dementia Pugulistica

    Dementia Pugulistica Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah it really sucks for the fighters. They pay the highest physical price of all athletes and have the least legal protection.
     
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  6. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Clean effective punching above all. If a guy is the ring general he probably is landing the clean effective punches. If hes the effective aggressor hes probably landing the clean effective punches. If a guys d is good and the others isn't that's reflected by clean effective punching

    I sort of use the other 3 when punching is about dead even

    I used to cut the round to thirds but now I do a running tally of whose winning as it goes on
     
  7. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Making someone miss repeatedly can be enough for me to give them the round especially when it’s against someone who is throwing more volume, it’s better to evade a 100 shots and throw nothing imo
     
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  8. Reg

    Reg Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Scoring ring generalship seems very redundant to me. If you are the ring general then the fight is going how you want it so you're landing more punches right? It seems like a scapegoat some people use to make it seem like their preferred fighter won. For example if you have a slick mover against a pressure fighter and that pressure fighter is effectively cutting off the ring and forcing the mover to exchange more than they want to then people give points to the pressure fighter. But what if the mover is landing the better scoring shots during these exchanges? The pressure fighter shouldn't be winning the round just because he's forcing the mover to exchange shots.
     
  9. ST1314

    ST1314 New Member Full Member

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    I agree.

    A lot of fighters fight really well while backing up or with their backs against the ropes, for example. The mover can actually be the ring general if that's the way he wants the fight to go. I credit the guy coming forward by default when the mover isn't throwing/landing anything, but I'm not gonna give a guy credit for coming forward and throwing punches if he's getting countered, out-landed, etc. by the "stick-and-move" fighter.
     
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  10. Dementia Pugulistica

    Dementia Pugulistica Active Member Full Member

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    I agree. That's when you apply effective aggression, which in your example the fighter coming ahead is not displaying. Ring generalship is the last criteria for me.
     
  11. m.s.

    m.s. Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If they are too close to call I call it even. Sometimes the punches are so fast that you can't tell for sure if a punch actually landed, in that case I rewind and watch in slow motion. You can't always get it right on fight night in a close one , it takes another viewing.
     
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  12. Benladdie3000

    Benladdie3000 Member Full Member

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    Basically I judge a fight based on who the commentator tells me is winning because I have no idea about boxing and just want eddie hearn to shut up and take my money
     
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  13. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Technical Support Full Member

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    If a fighter has a strange name I know he is winning and or about to get robbed on the cards.
     
  14. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's what I tend to do, often times fighters will take the first 2 mins off and go hard in the last minute so that the immediate impression of that round was that the fighter who was the aggressor in the last minute dominated.
     
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  15. VBOX

    VBOX JOURNEYMAN Full Member

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    I pre fill the score card for the money fighter and hope for a knockout.
     
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