How Do You Rank Floyd's Victory Over Canelo???

Very good win. Can't call it great as yet, all factors considered. And even if Canelo goes on to do great things, the kudos Floyd receives for having him in his W column should be restrained slightly on account of his relative greenness when they met.

Aside from grading the win on substance, just considering the aesthetics of his performance, I think it stands as the most beautiful and artistic of Mayweather's entire career. Punches were brushstrokes in there.

 

According to Floyd, catchweight losses don't count, as we all remember he told Cotto. So I rank this fight as a no contest.

 

I think it could have been an excellent win had Floyd got out of 2nd gear and pushed for the KO. He really didn’t take much risk in that fight. He won in clear fashion but it was more like he was fine with going through the motions and winning a safe and easy decision. Floyd made it come off like a glorified sparring session when it was a PPV world championship fight with a guy who was the future of the sport.

That takes some of the polish off the win for me. The catch weight didn’t really have an impact for how I view the win or how I value it. I understand how some say it affected the win. I honestly don’t think it would have changed the outcome one bit. Alvarez at that time was not the Alvarez he is today with the big fight experience who has really come into his own. A lot of that is attributed to his fight with Floyd but even though Canelo was undefeated with over 40 pro fights, he was still young and a bit green. Floyd was just on another level when that fight took place and it played out that way.

 

One of the best wins of the last ten years. Rigo over Donaire, Ward-Kovalev II, and Marquez-Pac are also up there.

 

I don't rank B.S. catchweight fights at all

 

Canelo wasn't green.. he had 43 pro fights ffs.. He just tried to outbox Floyd, and that' just something you can't do.

 

Are you addicted to GGG'S sausage since you have a picture of him as a kid, you creep!?

 

I'm not a huge fan of Floyd. But fair is fair, it was an excellent win. One that time will prove to be a great win and solidify Floyd ATG status.

 

decent.. Canelo is not that great moving forward.. And he got him lower in weight.

 

Good win.
It was the fight every one wanted and he dominated

 

No doubt a moderately paced technical duel should favour Floyd in the vast majority of cases, but Canelo was definitely somewhat green and still some years shy of his physical prime. He turned over while still a boy, his amateur experience very limited, so those 43 pro fights were basically learning on the job. Precious few of those opponents represented genuine world level opposition in the circumstances Canelo faced them - one might argue only one fit the bill, namely Austin Trout.

And then there was Mayweather, by then an extremely rounded and experienced, well preserved professional of almost two decades' standing. Owner of one of the most excellent boxing brains in the history of the sport.

That's a big ask for the kid. Such a big ask that I personally had little interest in the bout at the time and would've lamented its signing had it not been so widely demanded.

That's not to say Mayweather should earn no kudos for the virtuoso performance he served up, just that it should be tempered to some degree if we acknowledge that a more mature Canelo would have probably given a better account of himself and had more to offer in the myriad micro-level battles that comprise a boxing match with a maestro like Floyd.


Incidentally;

It's pleasing to note that Canelo learned a lot from his experience with Mayweather and carried it into the rest of his career in a positive sense. Sharing a ring with Floyd bettered him.

 

Out of those three options I'd say good.

Canelo was forced to drain himself and has improved a huge amount since fight.

Sometimes it's best to fight somebody later on in their career but also sometimes it is better to fight them early and I think Mayweather got him early.

 

I don't want to hear about Canelo being "green" or about the catch weight. He had a terrible game plan in trying to outbox a superior boxer. Floyd was clearly the better man. When have you ever seen Canelo hit air like that? He looked lost.

 

It wasn't a terrible gameplan at all. Early on it was working, it was just that Floyd made adjustments in Rounds 5-7 then again in Round 11 every time Canelo got momentum. I could say the same thing about Floyd, when did you see Floyd hit air like that? Canelo looked lost in *some* of the rounds. Floyd looked confused in many of the rounds. You could tell what Canelo was doing was working because Floyd was flinching constantly from Canelo feints which we've never seen from Floyd before. Canelo was getting in jabs and straight rights to the body between Floyd's gloves which doesn't get enough attention put on it when talking about this fight. It's very hard to land body shots on Floyd (as relatively light as Canelo's may have been, they still landed and scored) and practically no one's ever landed the amount of body shots on Floyd that Canelo landed. Also Canelo did well to set up Floyd to land some clean hooks on Floyd, they weren't earth shattering or anything, but they landed on Floyd and were very eye-catching.

Floyd needing the catchweight suggests that Floyd was worried about fighting Canelo, Floyd fought Cotto at 154 the year before, and for a 154-lb Champ like Floyd who won that title at 154 to need a catchweight vs Canelo, to need to weaken Canelo in order to fight him, that says a lot about the level of concern that Floyd had in fighting Canelo. I mean this is Floyd Mayweather we're talking about, supposedly the best ever. As a 154-lb Champion, he needed a catchweight to fight Canelo in a 154-lb unification bout? It's pathetic, and he absolutely should be criticized for it, it certainly takes the shine off of Floyd's win, and like Floyd said about Cotto when he Cotto fought Pacquiao drained at a catchweight and lost, Canelo should still be considered an undefeated fighter. Because according to Floyd, losses at catchweights don't count!

 

Canelo was green and Floyd was old. It's not like Canelo hadn't fought good competition before taking on Floyd. I thought it was a dominant victory since Floyd was 36 IIRC.