How do you rank Jones, Hopkins, Toney & Calzaghe?

Toney only got caught using peds at heavy. dont know why he catches so much **** for it. heavys have been using it since late 60's

 

maybe so, and thats a fair point, but its proven, so you have to take it into consideration. You hae go on the evidence available.

Not knocking his ability h2h, he was a fearsome infighter when he decided to turn up.

 

1. Calzaghe
2. Hopkins
3. Jones
4. Toney


numbers 2-4 have serious question marks over them regarding drug abuse

 

1.RJJ
2.Hopkins
3.Calzaghe
4.Toney

 

- Jones
- Hopkins
- Toney
- Slappy - Never fought the best guys on his resume when they were in their prime. I feel he lost to Hopkins and had he fought Jones when Jones was in his prime at 168 he would've been destroyed.

 

That's 3 and 4 boss.

 

Hopkins
Toney
Jones
Calzaghe

 

In fact

Hopkins
Calzaghe

The other two are unranked and considered cheats as they got caught juicing.

 

Hopkins refused to take the test vs Pascal. That makes him at least hugely suspicious

Ironcially Coke head Calzaghe is the only likely clean fighter out of the lot o em :deal

 

Exactly the order you have them in the thread title. ...









...Get out of my head! :fire

 

Toney didnt do anything at LHW or beat anyone at LHW. Calzaghe in 2 fights did more than anything Toney did at LHW

 

Yep

Just like in the title

 

Calzaghe undefeated, unified champ beat the man in 2 divisions and was the top man of 2 divisions

Hopkins unified champ beat the man in 2 divisions and was the top man of 2 divisions

Jones and Toney just shouldnt be given the same time as Calzaghe and Hopkins, who dont have question marks over whether they were fighting fairly or not

 

1. Jones (by a mile)
2. Toney( started at 160 and was a top 10 HW)
3. Hopkins(would have been higher if he had moved up sooner. Spent most of his career fighting bums and welterweights.)
4.Calzaghe(not really comparable to any of these guys who are ATGs. He was just a solid champ in one division.)

 

Do you believe Hopkin was clean going into the Pavlik and Pascal fights?