How do you rank the original 8 Black Murders row-

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  1. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Bye for now! Full Member

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    Bert Lytell
    Jack Chase
    Charley Burley
    Aaron Wade
    Holman Williams
    Eddie Booker
    Lloyd Marshall
    Cocoa Kid

    I would like to include Bivins as an optional part of your list. I only recently found out Holman was the only one to fight every member of the 8 cool stuff.
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Burley was the best. After that it gets pretty sketchy and you'd have to work extremely hard to prove certain things.
     
  3. robert ungurean

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    Burley
    Williams
    Marshal
    C. Kid
    The rest is too muddled for me
     
  4. Kamikaze

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    I have always felt like the Kid and Holman could fight him for that spot. But I need to do more research to be confident.
     
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  5. Kamikaze

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    I see a lot of Burley>Williams
    I am not learned on the 8 as much as I should. Why Charley over Holman?
     
  6. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Full Member

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    Better offensive fighter IMO
     
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  7. McGrain

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    The fight in which they were thrown out was being dominated by Burley and he suffered an injury in another, a fight he was dominating but where he dropped every round after the injury.

    So if you're looking for tiebreaks to settle their head to head, there are a couple.
     
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  8. Kamikaze

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    Holman's has the distinction of beating every member of the row. I think that alone is epic.
     
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  9. Kamikaze

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    I will need to get a copy of the Murderer's row book and read up on them.
     
  10. robert ungurean

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    Absolutely no denying that at all. Holman was probably the best pure boxer and defensive master but he lacked power. Burley would drop HW in the gym and was the whole package that's why I believe most rate him at the top spot
     
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  11. McGrain

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    Holman did box shy of power, but he hit pretty hard before his hands started to crumble. Some bad luck that.
     
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  12. Kamikaze

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    If only Burley put his hand up fast enough when God asked who wanted to be Sugar Ray.
     
  13. thistle

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    Marshall was the Best!

    Williams & Burley a toss up.

    Jack Chase from my understanding was a good and dangerous fighter.
     
  14. Gazelle Punch

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    Burley and Booker 1/2 imo maybe Marshall after that then it’s very argumentative over the last of em. Booker is a guy that I’ve seen almost nothing about on this forum. But his record is impressive.
     
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  15. Minotauro

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    I actually would put Holman number one, even in the series with Burley and overall has a better resume than him also wins over Marshall although he really struggled with Cocoa Kid. Holman, Burley and Marshall in that order. Booker could have been the highest had his career not been so short.
     
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