How do you rate Abraham's performance in the Dirrell fight?

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  1. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    Aside from the stupid illegal blow he threw out of desperation.

    What did you think of his performance?
     
  2. untmike

    untmike ABN Full Member

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    he got his ass whooped
     
  3. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He sucked ass. Plain and simple.
     
  4. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    I saw a little of each poll option in Abraham last night.
     
  5. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Before the fight, I predicted AA would stop Dirrell late and be behind on the scorecards when he did it.

    This would have been a very possible outcome, but for his serious mistake.

    And a mistake it was. It happened in the heat of the moment. He got hit in the face by a punch from Dirrell while Dirrell was down.

    (In fact, Dirrell seems to use that sliding leg to go down quite a bit. Several times in the Froch and Abraham fights. Strange how neither Froch or Abraham found the canvas slippery)

    Anyway, AA didn't have enough time to make a decision to foul. The hit was intenmtional, but he didn't realize (in time, or at all) that it would be a foul.

    When Direll sprawled out and couldn't continue, there was only one possible course open to the ref: DQ.


    As to the fight itself, it went pretty much as I expected. Direll was outboxing AA for most of the fight, but the bigger punches were landed by Dirrell.

    Despite being out-landed and cut by an accidental clash of heads, Dirrfell was clearly in better shape leading up to the DQ than was Dirrrell. He was neither hurt nor fatigued. Dirrell was a bit of both.

    Had it not been for the DQ, there was at least a 50/50 chance that Dirrell was going to get KO'd.

    All of that said, Dirrell fought a very good fight and stuck to his gameplan. He may well have been on his way to a wide UD.

    The foul, intentional or not, was clear and thus, the DQ was warranted.

    AA has only himself to blame for the loss as he should have been able to pull his punch.

    Clearly, it wasn't a calculated foul. Who would have more to gain from that ?

    He's not the first to make this error.

    Notably, RJJ, did the same with Griffin.

    And I suspect if these two ever meet again, AA will bring his resentment with him, which could result in a much briefer rematch.
     
  6. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    You're being too suspicious here, cuchu. It is a ring, not ice, and Dirrell slipped in Abraham's corner, where his team where giving AA showers between rounds. Dirrell was about to put all his weight on the back foot and he obviously slipped. He didn't "use" anything, at least on that occasion.

    So basically you're saying that no matter what you saw in yesterday's fight or the possible improvements/changes of these two fighters' strategies in the future, you'll always feel that Abraham beats Dirrell. Right?

    Oh, and don't forget to vote.
     
  7. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Froch was pulling Dirrell down in their fight via the back of his glove.

    Against Abraham he slipped in the same spot, Abrahams corner, which was dumping water all over the place, which even more detrimental was on a newly placed logo.
    There is no proof that the cut was caused by a class of heads. Dirrell landed a left hand and Abrahams was wounded a second.

    As for being hurt. Nada. Watch the 11th, he was actually winning that round. You could make a case for winded, but hurt no.
    Doubt it. Dirrells speed and talent will always make him a heavy favorite. Abraham breaking out of shell will just get him tagged more.
     
  8. evenx

    evenx New Member Full Member

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    Watching the first two rounds i was thinking; wow, this Dirrell guy, you gotta give it to him, he is here to box. But the more the fight got taken in to deep water, the more his *****-like personality far exeeds his skills, and i for one am left with NO respect for him.
    It seemed like low blows were integrated in his game plan; wtf was that attempt to knock out AA when he was half turned away trying to shake the pain from the n-th low blow off his nuts.
    And the ref? dont even get me started, the comeraderie was blatant between him and Dirrell, from round 3 i think, when they shared that gayish moment after Dirrell decided to relax a little on the canvas.
    No matter if he wins this whole thing now Dirrell will be NOTHING other than a *****.
    The "knock down" was not a clear KD, as AA was streched out at 45 dgr. before the punch even got to him. That was however NOT the case when Dirrell got KD`d, wich btw didn`t make the scorecards.
    The DQ, I`m afraid was obligatory, when AD decided to play it out like he did. But it not just about the win is it? Boxing is a game of honor, and this litttle ***** should not be allowed in the ring again.
     
  9. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    :|
     
  10. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Abraham should have gone after the knock out earlier. He was on his way to a knockout clearly after he knocked Dirrell down.
     
  11. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    Right.

    The question, though, was how do you rate his overall performance. Minus the ******ed illegal blow that destroyed everything for him, of course.
     
  12. moshimoshi

    moshimoshi New Member Full Member

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    He was complacent, and I think the knockdown he didn't expect at all and it affected him. He didn't get going until much too late. I disagree with the assumption that he must have known he was hitting a foul shot, for one reason, the ref was nowhere to be seen or heard, and Abraham did wait for a split-second as if he wasn't sure what to do. I understand people want to defend Dirrell when he boxed so fluently but why all the hate for Abraham, like he's a caveman, a cheat, a thug. That's just xenophobia, he's no different from any other fighter.
     
  13. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    No "hate" for Arthur here. But he did act like a fool, taking away his own chance to get the win.

    Also, up until the 10th round KD he scored, he hadn't done anything other than covering up and throwing looping shots that almost sent him out of the ring, and was basically beaten up. This is why I think his overall performance was far from good.

    Also note that I'm Greek, so all fighters -except maybe Mike Arnaoutis- are foreigners to me. :D
     
  14. Sp_Immortal

    Sp_Immortal Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's no different from any other fighter? What does that even mean? What, do boxers come out of some factory where they are given the same temperment, attitudes, and personality?

    Look, Abraham is a thug and a dick. That was plain as day considering what he did and how he reacted to what he'd done. Doesn't make me hate him, there are plenty of unsavory characters in the game, but he's not a nice guy.

    That hit was completely deliberate. Nobody throws an uppercut at knee level unless they mean to either hit the other fighter in the balls when he's upright or is aiming for downed fighter. The idea that it was unintentional seems to have more to do with people wanting to hold on to fanboy crushes rather than any sort of factual arguement.
     
  15. VIP

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    I thought he was definitely coming on during the latter rounds. Obviously it wasn't a very good performance, but I think it's due to the fact that Dirrell performed much better after what I thought was a very mentally weak performance against Froch.