How do you rate Abraham's performance in the Dirrell fight?

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  1. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    I think his mistake was not going for the knockout sooner. Froch scared the crap out of Dirrell from the first round. Abraham has a fantastic jab that really hurts, he should have used that to set everything up, but he did was he usually does, but just did it a little late. The knockout was on it's way. I hope he learns from it and never allow a criminal like Cole ref any of his fights ever. Just check out Cole's record in TexASS.
     
  2. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Possibly. It was just an observation. The boy goes down a lot.



    No.

    I said in another thread about a year ago that even if AA was down 11-0 going into the 12th, I wouldn't bet against him. I feel that Dirrell had a great fight against AA and would always be a possible to beat him.

    I never thought AA could outbox him. I expected Abraham to be trailing but to catch Dirrell eventually.

    In a rematch, I would make it about a 50-50 proposition. Can dirrell stay away for 12 rounds.
     
  3. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    No. I watched the Showtime feed. They showed the cut being caused by a clash of heads that looked accidental.



    He wasn't badly hurt, but he was a bit stunned. And he was getting tired.


    As I said, Before, during and after the fight, I agreed taht Dirrell was the slicker better boxer.

    But AA has possibly the best Jaw and the best punch in the business.

    Much depends on how he deals with the loss.


    And Dirrell's confidence should take a huge leap. He has pulled off the biggest upset of the tournament so far.

    This is turning out to be a great tournament.
     
  4. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    Oh, cool. It's just that what you said ("AA will bring his resentment with him, which could result in a much briefer rematch") sounded like your pretty much convinced that AA would KO Dirrell in a rematch. With these two I think it will always be about 50-50.
     
  5. The Ring

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    Other - Dirty and pathetic.
     
  6. kirk

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    His usual tactics were incapable of defeating Dirrell (maybe he could have gotten a late KO, maybe).

    Why did he choose to foul instead of continue to try for the KO? Because he had never been beaten this badly and decisively before and he was scared and desperate and angry. He knew he was in dire straits and was very unsure that he could get a late KO.

    I don't think it was a matter of him putting on a subpar performance, but a matter of not being able to perform in a way which could match or defeat Dirrell.
     
  8. maverock

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    He fought like he always does. No surprises. Sleeps through the first couple of rounds then wakes up and tries to go for the KO.

    Stylistically, a technically sound runner-boxer with good stamina and fast legs is his absolute nightmare.
     
  9. evenx

    evenx New Member Full Member

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    You`re a funny guy... Btw i`m norwegian, so i dont give a **** going in to the fight wich ever way it goes either. But watching **** like that is aggravating.
    If Dirrell had knocked out AA with that attempted suckerpunch they would give him the win.
    If you dont see it that way, and you`re not an American, thats fine...:rofl
     
  10. maverock

    maverock Active Member Full Member

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    You make it sound like this was a completely thought-out, rational decision. I doubt that. It was in the heat of battle, with adrenaline going at full speed. You punch first, then think.

    Punches like these have happened multiple times in boxing history, even by fighters who were ahead on the score cards. Then the "he knew he was losing, so he went for the foul" theory doesn't make sense.

    In fact I bet Abraham would have executed the exact same punch if he had won all the previous rounds and knew he was winning on points.
     
  11. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    If Abraham has a weakness in style, he's too defensive, and likes to counter. When matches vs a speedy boxer like Dirrell, this type of style can cost you.

    Who would have won it not for the foul blow? I think Abraham via KO in 12.
     
  12. hussleman

    hussleman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Abraham got his has whipped from piller to post. Dirrell did a number on him. So the coward tried to take the easy way out by hitting Dirrell when he slipped dowm.
     
  13. lion

    lion Active Member Full Member

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    people used to rate AA more than he was worthy.. AA sucked and got schooled
     
  14. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Other....... Abraham was clearly surprised by how heavy handed Dirrell was,and how little effect his big shots were having on Dirrell.

    AA landed at least 4 clean power punches and lets be honest here Dirrell never looked like going down other than the disputed KD which was a combination of punch and trip.It was also obvious that Dirrell couldn't land clean shots on AA's turtle defence and was obviously trying to draw AA's lead hand in order to counter him,which explains why he was backing into the ropes even when on top in the exchanges.
    I never bought the AA hype,and said from day one of the tourney that the Taylor KO flattered AA and that he'd be exposed by the other fighters in the tourney.The worrying thing with fighters like AA is that once the bubble of invincibility is burst they are sitting ducks.I wouldn't be surprised to see AA being saved by the ref in the near future.He may have a granite chin but he was eating shots all night against Dirrell,and modern boxing practice's won't/shouldn't let that continue.
     
  15. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    This post is miles away from the previous caricature you posted.

    Yet, you're wrong again. Abraham was on his feet and suddenly stopped fighting, while the referee hadn't stopped the fight. The "protect yourself at all times" goes for Abraham too. Dirrell had no obligation to stop fighting just because AA felt like it.