How do you rate Alvarez?

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Said it many times. I'm not sold on Alvarez. I like him and he definitely has star potential as the lads have said, and boy do we need stars right now. But i don't get the sense i'm watching someone special. Sometimes when you see someone at this stage when they're a "contender" you get the feeling you're watching a future great and that's not been my impression of Alvarez. He could and i hope he proves me wrong. He'll have a solid career but i don't think he's the second coming of Barrera or De La Hoya.

 

I don't know about the rest of you lot, but I'm not getting that "special" feel coming off many of the prospects in world boxing at the moment.

 

What concerns me is that they are stacking things too heavily in his favour for fights against guys like Hatton.

Sure, Hatton has come on a lot (probably an understatement really) in the past couple of years..... but someone who is earmarked as a potential superstar shouldn't need such treatment.

I like him and hope he does well, but I'm not sure he's the next Mexican superstar.

There's plenty of talk about American prospects being few and far between, but there aren't many top Mexicans coming through to my mind.

I don't think GBP help matters to be honest.

 

I just imagined him sticking the nut on Groves at the weigh in then did I ? :think

 

He hardly has the record of a Journeyman though does he?

 

He's only 20, Larry Merchant has a high opinion of him. He is hugely popular in Mexico, a bout with JCC Jnr would be mexico's heaviest superfight. I feel that he sometimes looks a bit robotic though and slow, and fat.

 

Very much agree with this post.

 

Yep, i'd agree with that. IMHO it's all to do with the regression of skillsets and not enough participation. It's like our educational system, when these kids go to the gyms they graduate without even acquiring or perfecting the most basic and fundamental skills.

The evolution of boxing is fascinating because although men seem bigger these days it really doesn't have that much of an effect on the sport below the heavyweight division.

It's my opinion that, from the 20's/30's onwards boxing has not progressed at all skill wise. Look at the footage and to this day nobody throws a better right hand then Joe Lious, no one can throw the combinations to body and head that so defined Ray Robinson. Jersey Joe Walcott was as crafty as they come. Ali used the same "pull counter" Floyd uses today.

We actually have the closest prospect to what we'd call "special" talent in James Degale. But overall the future looks dim because of this regression in skillset and fine tuning.

 

he's not that bad!

 

Spot on, he is tailor made for GBP box office he ticks all the right boxes for
sales but having seen him twice and just watched him against Hatton you cant help but wonder what a fast slick boxer who could stay out of range might do him on points,Hatton caught him without doing much damage with fast bursts and for the times he hurt Hatton should he not stop him.
However because hes so young maybe Im being harsh on him and the hype of the american boxing writers cant be easy
The jurys for me too is definitely out on Alvarez.........

 

With careful matchmaking he should unify the Light Middleweight/ Super Welterweight (whatever) division. Especially as Martinez will move back up after the Dzinzruk fight and GBP are clearly already protecting him.

I mean let's look at the other champs in the division; Cotto, Bundrage and Dzinzruk. I think he would beat Bundrage with ease and with a bit of luck overcome Dzinruk. Cotto obviously should not be considered right now but I do think they should put Canelo in with the winner of the inevitable Cotto vs Marg fight. I think either would be PPV worthy.

Just keep him away from Kirkland.

 

I think a very physically mature fighter for his age which helps a lot. Exciting style but he's not unbeatable or a unbelieveable fighter (not that any 20 year old is). He does some nice things but he was clipped a lot by Hatton's jab and i think he would of been beaten if he fought a world class fighter last night who was 'live' as they say.

Yes he's young but he's in a mans game and holding major belts now and talking big i think they best be careful who they match him with because he's not ready for A Level world class just yet or for Elite Level World Class as i put it. He's got a fair bit to work on but he will be in some cracking bouts and have exciting career.

I think he needs to mix work up a bit more from creating openings to power of shots and angles.

He's no Salvador Sanchez but a good fighter none the less.

 

Ricardo Lopez's nipper is ment to be pretty tasty some1 said in the general a while back.

He said in his interview he wants another 2 fights before jumping in at the deep end. i reckon he'll come good