How do you rate Bas Rutten

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by LocoRoco, Jul 28, 2009.


  1. LocoRoco

    LocoRoco ★★★★★ Full Member

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    I have not been a MMA fan for that long and have done quite a bit video research on the net, i came accross Bas Rutten fighting in Pancrase and also watched his fight with Randleman, but how does he rate with long time MMA fans and experts? is he an ATG?

    Any thoughts much appreciated
     
  2. Grievesy

    Grievesy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A pioneer and one of the first strikers that I can think of who did extremely well in the sport. Also one of the first to cross train I would think. Came in as strictly a striker, was submitted a few times then decided to learn submissions himself and finished his career with more submission wins than KOs.

    Also had a huge winning streak spanning from 1995 to 1999, finishing with wins over Frank Shamrock twice, Maurice Smith, Guy Mezger, Kohsaka, Randleman, Funaki etc. I'd say he's an ATG.
     
  3. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Legacy:
    Pioneer, Legend, First ballot hall of famer if you will.
    Essentially brought striking to Japanese shootfighting (Schilt deserves credit too, but Bas was earlier)

    Head to Head:
    Very good, but more questionable, great against guys who were very good grapplers without much takedown ability, great against wrestlers with limited grappling, could win the striking contest with just about anybody in his day, alot of people in hypothetical historical matchups.
     
  4. LocoRoco

    LocoRoco ★★★★★ Full Member

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    good stuff, has anyone seen his street fighting tuition videos, very informative but also hilarious
     
  5. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Also, Bas was a very very entertaining commentator and, even though I don't feel he broke down the aspects of the fights with the detail of Rogan, he did a very good job.

    His show on HDnet isn't too bad either. Even after he retired as a fighter, he is making an impact on the sport.
     
  6. rusty nails

    rusty nails Tszyu for PM!! Full Member

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    very impressive striker with great power but people rate him too highly due to his popularity. in his first fights in the ufc i felt he lost to randleman and was getting his ass handed to him by the japanese guy..
     
  7. LocoRoco

    LocoRoco ★★★★★ Full Member

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    I have heard alot of people say that Randleman won that fight, i disagree, as does Bas and Randleman
     
  8. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    I wont have a bad word said about his teaching videos. There the stuff of legends. Man i ****ing love that guy. :love
     
  9. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Randleman won that fight. The decision was utter bull****. Bas had no answer to Kevins wrestling. Dont believe me.. compare his face with Kevins after the fight.
     
  10. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Bas is THOUSAND times the commentator that Rogan is. Please do not put his name and Rogans in the same sentance. :fire:nono
     
  11. Weber

    Weber Active Member Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  12. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Iv got this training video in my collection.
     
  13. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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  14. LocoRoco

    LocoRoco ★★★★★ Full Member

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    Both Bas & Kevin are on record saying that Bas won that fight, Randleman did'nt do anything, but yea the street fighting vids are the stuff of legend, appratnly there is a new one out soon :happy:happy
     
  15. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    You need to rewatch that fight. Kevin won that fight clearly. Bas spent the entire fight on his back and couldnt even pull guard.