im assuming that High level atg is top25 pfp and id put him around 20 no lower than 25. Mid level is top 60 and low level is top100?
High Level All-Timer. One of the highest ring intelligences in HISTORY. Extreme case of longevity, record setting at Middleweight, etc..
lol christ. He's a very good fighter but is fortunate to have fought in the horrendous middleweight era that he did. One of the worst era's at 160 lb ever. Very good fighter but massivly overrated.
to be honest, he had 20 plus defenses of the middleweight title with most being **** level fighters...willaim bo james? steve frank? segundo mercado beat him the first time knocking him down 2 times. andrew council? alot of former welterweights..triidad, dlh, simon brown. beat alot of junior middles in carl daniels, john david jackson, fought robert allen 3 damn times, oh lets not forget momar hohakbar or whatever the hell that was......had some good wins mixed in with echols, lipsey, glenn johnson, and eastman. joppy was shot, holmes was average... thats his middleweight reign...there were 10 decent middles over that time he for some reason didnt fight... good solid wins over tarver and pav.... overated at what he did at 160
Hopkins is an ATG but I can't help but notice that he has fought A LOT of small guys...when he stands next to Mosley I can't help but think that Mosley and Hopkins both fought De La Hoya & Winky...Hopkins is much bigger than Mosley...even Pavlik came up 10 pounds to fight Hopkins...his biggest win (Trinidad) was a WELTERWEIGHT! Hopkins is an amazing fight though...his ring generalship is unmatched...but I feel his rep is tarnished by the amount of smaller fighters he's fought...he's talking now of becoming heavyweight champ so I think he may realize this as well...if he can beat Adamek or haye I would be AMAZED.
Laugh all you want, but you're not going to find many middleweights who displayed the skill that Bernard did. His opposition at the weight wasn't anything great, but he put on numerous dominant performances (at higher weights as well), showing brilliant defense, intelligence, counterpunching, timing, footwork, and variety. He's more than just a very good fighter....he's definitely worthy of being called great.