How do you rate Henry "The Gentleman" Maske?

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  1. Kissan

    Kissan I respect box Full Member

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    How good was Henry Maske and how do you rate him? He was and still is a household name in Germany. He made boxing huge in Germany. The biggest name since Max Schmeling, the forerunner for boxing in German tv. The one who paved the way for Schulz, Ottke Abraham, Sturm and - yes - the Klitschko brothers.
    There were some dubios decisions and he was IBF champion, at a time, where other strong champions fought. His resume is not the best I ever saw.
    What do you think? HOF? Trash?
     
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  2. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The One and Only Full Member

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    In Light-Heavyweight or pound for pound?
    I think he is the best German boxer ever and possible top 10 of the greatest amateur boxers of all time.
     
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  3. Serge

    Serge Vampire Slayer Staff Member

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    They referred to him as ''The German Michael Jordan'' in his homeland

    'The German boxing business really started in 1992 when my dad did the deal for [German boxer] Henry Maske with [TV channel] RTL," insists Kalle Sauerland, whose father Wilfred kept the business ticking over for 15 years before the Maske deal. "There are three people responsible for boxing in Germany: Wilfred Sauerland, Henry Maske and Hans Mahr of RTL because he took the risk and it looked like a risk at the time." Maske went on and had 12 world title fights between 1993 and 1996 and averaged 17.8m viewers, with a peak at 23m.

    Average 17.8 million viewers and a peak of 23 million :scared1

    "When Henry boxed it was like a national holiday," remembers Sauerland


    Maske vs Hill was a unification match up with both Hill's WBA belt and Maske's IBF on the line and obviously a huge event for German boxing. In fact, it was the most expensive one in German boxing history.

    'MUNICH, GERMANY. On the evening of Saturday, November 23th, Germany`s Henry Maske and Virgil Hill from the USA were scheduled to meet in the ring for the unification of their IBF & WBA Light Heavyweight world titles. Maske had planned this to be his farewell match (`My greatest dream is to retire as an undefeated world champion.`). As usual, a whole bunch of stars and wannabe-stars were showing up at ring-side, surrounded by patriotic fans on the cheaper places. The rest of the nation was at home watching TV, where the fight was not broadcasted but celebrated.

    Olympic gold
    World Amateur gold & silver
    European gold x 3

    Had a reputation for being boring but his first fight against Rocky was quality and very controversial I might add too



    Speaking of Rocky (RIP)

    Here he is arm wrestling Amir Khan

    He looks like a Bond villain lol



    Former world titleholder Henry Maske is the man largely recognized with revitalizing boxing in Germany, breathing new life in the sport in his homeland during the 1990s.

    He initially won gold at the 1988 Olympics in Seoul, before winning a version of the light heavyweight title as a professional.

    Maske, was born on Jan. 6, 1964, in the small town of Treuenbrietzen, in former East Germany, a few hours from the Polish border.

    At just six years old, Maske accompanied a friend to a boxing gym.

    “He left the training group after two weeks, (me) after 26 years,” laughed Masked in an interview with RingTV.com.

    At that time, the German Democratic Republic offered very good opportunities, as long as you were successful. Maske was able to succeed by virtue of his discipline and hard work.


    Olympic triumph in Seoul.

    Maske was a top amateur. He won silver at the 1986 World Championships before easily claiming middleweight gold in Seoul.

    “The moment of an Olympic victory will remain unforgettable for me,” he said proudly. “That was the greatest thing for me.”

    The following year, he went back to the World Championships and won gold at light heavyweight. He was also a three-time European champion.

    He exited the amateur scene with an approximate record of 172-15 and turned pro in May 1990. He progressed quickly, gaining good experience by besting former world title challenger Sean Mannion and former WBA titleholder Leslie Stewart.

    In March 1993, Sauerland Event brought long reigning IBF 175-pound titleholder Prince Charles Williams to Germany. On his biggest night, Maske performed superbly, outboxing the American en route to a 12-round unanimous decision.

    The Gentleman retained his title twice in 1993 and was named German Sportsman of the Year.

    In total, the likable German southpaw retained his crown 10 times over a 3-and-a-half-year period. He bested the likes of Iran Barkley (RTD 9), Egerton Marcus (UD 12, in a rematch of the 1988 Olympic final) and Graciano Rocchigiani (UD 12 twice) before losing a unification match to Virgil Hill. Afterwards, amid emotional scenes, he retired.

    After an 11-year retirement, he returned for a one-off fight with old rival Hill, in 2007. This time Maske won a decision and once again stepped away from boxing with a record of (31-1, 11 knockouts).

    In 2010, Maske played Max Schmeling in a biography Max Schmeling – A German Legend which charted the legendary former heavyweight champion’s life and career.

    Two years later, he joined Schmeling as the only other boxer currently inducted into the German Sports Hall of Fame.

    obody is better placed to talk about the impact Maske had on boxing in Germany than former promoter Wilfried Sauerland.

    “Both Maske and his trainer [Manfred Wolke] are very likable and hardworking,” said the 2010 International Boxing Hall of Fame Inductee. “As amateurs, they’re more professional than 99 percent of all professionals.

    “Professional boxing wasn’t very much alive at the time but, within a short time, he filled the halls and became very popular. He became a big star.”

    By doing so, Sauerland feels that Maske inspired future generations in Germany. “There were quite a few people from the young amateur boxers who said he was a big idol to them,” he said.

    However, Sauerland admits that his former fighter didn’t have the same impact outside of Germany.

    “People in Germany saw different things,” said the former promoter. “Not all of them, but most of them. They don’t necessarily need a knockout. They like if a guy boxes technically and, of course, wins the fight. They just like if somebody boxes well and has a good defense.

    “That’s why in Germany you still see the crowd clapping if somebody makes a good defensive move, which you don’t find in many other places.”

    Maske is able to mix with people from all societies. He carries a certain gravitas in his homeland.

    “I would say after Max Schmeling, who’s not there anymore, he’s considered the best boxer Germany ever had,” said Sauerland. “Outside of the ring, he’s very popular. He’s invited to all the VIP parties. He’s a big attraction where he goes.”

    Today, Maske, 53, lives in Bergischen Land, in the region of Nordrhein-Westfalen, near the city of Cologne. He has been married for 25 years and has two children.

    After retiring from boxing, he became a commentator for RTL (German TV channel) before moving to ARD, but he hasn’t worked for them since 2014.

    Maske is kept very active with his ventures outside of boxing. He owns 10 McDonald’s franchises, employing 350 staff and holds lectures for managers from the business world. In 1999, he formed his own foundation called A Place for Kids which supports disadvantaged children.


    BEST JAB
    Virgil Hill: He is a very clever boxer whose moves are very considered. He uses his jab specifically to enforce his tactics.

    BEST DEFENSE
    Graciano Rocchigiani: From an extremely closed defense, he observes his opponent. When he saw or recognized a chance to hit the opponent, he acted immediately.

    BEST CHIN
    Ernesto Magdaleno: He took a lot, but did not go to the ground. Only after the ninth round, he gave up.

    FASTEST HANDS
    Hill: He was quick on his feet, quick with his hands. He acted very calculating with a plan. He had the fastest hands.

    FASTEST FEET
    Andrea Magi: He was very quick on his feet. He could very quickly change the distance.

    SMARTEST
    Hill: His cleverness and cunning rarely allowed his opponents to look good.

    STRONGEST
    Prince Charles Williams: He was a strong personality and just so convincing when he was in the ring.

    BEST PUNCHER
    Williams: He had a very hard straight right hand, as well as a short uppercut to the chin. (Also) I only know him from sparring, but, in 2007, during my preparation for Virgil, Glencoffe Johnson, massaged my ribs. It was not easy to cope with.

    BEST SKILLS
    Egerton Marcus: He was the perfect professional boxer for me; compact figure, good reach and very good technique.

    BEST OVERALL
    Hill: He was, in my opinion, the best boxer overall. He did nothing coincidentally. He had a plan every time. He fought with very different strategies against different boxers. To defeat him, you needed an even better plan.


    Quote on Maske from Iceman Scully
    ''Henry Maske was a VERY good boxer who is unappreciated here because he fought always in Germany. He was world amateur champ and the 1988 Olympic Golde Medalist. He made ten title defenses and defeated Prince charles Williams to capture the title in theifrst place. He was 6 ft 3 or maybe even slightly taller. great discipline, jab etc. Even Roy Jones when he was in his prime said Maske would be a very difficult fight.''
     
  4. Kissan

    Kissan I respect box Full Member

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    Time to say goodbye?
     
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  6. Kissan

    Kissan I respect box Full Member

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    vast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A decent fighter , I know the Germans love him.
    He will always be in the shadow of greatness cast by Roy Jones Jr
     
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  9. Seamus

    Seamus Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ATG.

    Probably the single most overlooked athlete of the past century.
     
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  10. The Long Count

    The Long Count Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I spoke to Jon Scully about Maske they fought. Said he was the single toughest fighter for him to fight. That he used his size perfectly and seemed bigger than he was.
    The Hill loss hurt because i believe he was expected to win.
    absolutely great amateur - undeniable. As a pro I think he could be viewed better had he taken a few more risks. His resume is just too lacking - but he was talented, smart and big for light heavy. Good combo
     
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  11. eltirado

    eltirado Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  12. eltirado

    eltirado Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Henry Maske is arguably the best Looking German boxer ever

    The best German boxer ever is 168 ATG --- Sven Ottke, lets not go there
     
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  13. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The One and Only Full Member

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    The most beautiful was obvious Rene Weller, as he's calle "der schöne Rene". 'Bubi' Scholz was also a sunnyboy.
    Well from the appearence could it be Dominik Britsch or Tyrone Zeuge maybe.

    But Sven Ottke didn't age as much ae Henry Maske, as them are only few years seperated. He has just a bit shorter hair and is now in the Jungle Camp in Australia.

    But to the opener claimment about some controversial decisions, I'm only aware that these were the first Rocchigiani and Hill fights. While he always dominated the rematches.
    About his achievements do not forget Charles Williams was lineall champion and the man to beat in Light-Heavyweight, as Hill lost not long before against Hearns (the Prince was since over 8 years undefeated and the longest reigning world champion). Then made he ten successful defences against the like ys former champions Barkley, Rocchigiani (twice) and undefeated number 1 contender Duran Williams.
    Although he didn't open the door for Axel Schulz, as both were around the same time creating high number of TV viewer rates, like 40 to 60 percent of all (similar as only the Klitschkos achieved).
     
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  14. madballster

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    Technically a solid fighter, no doubt. Picture book technique. But by God, he was boring to watch.
     
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  15. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I liked hi. A pleasure to get his bouts on tape---trouble is you knew the result.

    but with that style of his, a guy to be avoided at all costs.
     


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