How do you rate robert guerrero and victor ortiz?

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  1. YCGS

    YCGS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Guerrero got baby nuts right quick when he was asked to fight Thurman.
     
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  2. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Chris Algieri schools them both to a UD.
     
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  3. YCGS

    YCGS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Guerrero has far better fundamentals than Rios, but Guerrero is stupid too. He WOULD NOT box Rios and it would quickly turn into a slug match. The "mas macho" gene would kick in. Ghost has also looked sh*tty recently too. It's probably a 53/47 fight in favor of Ghost.
     
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  4. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    If he allowed himself to be dragged into a war with Rios like he did vs Kamegi......

    Guerrero would be KTFO inside 4 rds.

    Hell, he ran like a deer thru the woods vs tiny Selcuk Aydin, and was nearly KTFO everytime Aydin landed. Rios would WRECK him.:deal
     
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  5. LightsOutJack

    LightsOutJack Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Both higher than Algieri, and Guerrero higher than Rios
     
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  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Guerrero would UD Thurman:deal
     
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  7. YCGS

    YCGS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He doesn't agree.
     
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  8. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Maybe he wanted more money, he has an awfully high opinion of himself.
     
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  9. Bald_Toad

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    they are both terrible bums.:deal
     
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  10. kirk

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    I really dont rate guerrero at all....

    Ortiz as an overall fighter wasnt special obviously but at his best was good due a dangerous one element to him... he had very real power that every opponent needed to take seriously.

    Ortiz is definitely a bottom top 10 guys at welterweight at his best.

    Robert i have a harder time placing....


    Right now i think ortiz is probably a lower top top 25 guy...

    Not sure where to rank robert... probably somewhere from 15 to 10.
     
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  11. STB

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    Rios isnt KO'ing Guererro, not in 4 rounds, not in 8 rounds, not in 12 rounds.

    Guererro is a step above Alvarado.

    Ortiz actually has more ability than Rios, but Im not sure his heart is in boxing anymore. He seems to have lost all confidence.
     
    STB, Nov 28, 2014
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  12. Florez

    Florez Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wheres the ''Young & Hungry'' Ortiz now?
    Atleast if we were to compare Algieri to Ortiz, Algieri is a True Warrior.
     
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  13. Super Hans

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    Guerrero's ok and top 8 to 15 level fighter, probably would be better at 140, never gets mentioned in the iron chin department, but he has a really good chin.

    Ortiz is, and basically a club fighter, with a glass chin and a glass heart, similar really to Broner.
     
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  14. Super Hans

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    Please, stop hating on Rios because Pacquiao shut him out recently, and you think that by ****ing on Pacquiao fire, it raises Mayweather's stock.

    He hasn't dropped to Ortiz level and you cannot seriously believe Rios would lose by KO or at all in fact to Joesisto Lopez and Luis Collozo. If Rios is comparable to any recent Mayweather opponent it's Maidana
     
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  15. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    At their best, they probably deserved to be considered in the top 15-20 of their division. Some skillful business management got them ranked higher and got them lucrative fights with Floyd Mayweather. But he beat them soundly and they slipped back into obscurity because they couldn't beat any other top welterweights.
     
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