How do you rate the trainer Don Turner?

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Also, what were Turner's defining wins (not involving Holyfield or Holmes)? Honest question. This is a man who's apparently trained fighters in six decades, and his signature wins seem to have all taken place in a relatively brief window 20-25 years ago, while working with two ATG veterans.

 

Not sure but I read that he was in Europe training Christophe Tiozzo when he got the call from Holmes' team. Not complete obscurity or anything like that but he wasn't exactly setting the boxing world on fire circa 1990.

 

Sorry but when I see an expert clearly showing false basic moves to try and substantiate their outlandish point then they deserve to be called out on it I am glad the gent in the pad video did just that and was having none of it.

Based on the sum of evidence at best I could agree Turner is a reasonable coach who got opportunities to work with fighters well above his abilities.

 

Yeah, Steward and Turner did not dislike each other at all. They treated each other with the utmost respect. Honest question: What would possess someone to take the time to type out such a baseless assertion? From another article:

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/sports/trainers-trade-heavyweight-rips-article-1.832259

" That's mild compared with what their trainers are saying about each other. Don Turner, Holyfield's trainer, refused to go on a press conference call with Emanuel Steward, Lewis' trainer. "If I go on that show, I'm going to slap that blah-blah across the face," said Turner, who for 10 years has carried a grudge against a rival he claims tried to take over one of his fighters. Steward bristles when Turner intimates that Lewis hasn't learned all that much from a supposed Hall of Fame trainer. "Yeah, I should put Pampers on him, like I've got a baby kid," said Steward. Turner said, "Emanuel thinks it's all about him, when it's about the fighters.

" Steward can't hide his dislike of Holyfield, either, saying it was the champion's "cheapness" that forced him out of the corner."



Embarrassed for you and for anyone who "liked" your post.

 

Jeez - that is an outright slaughter by Steward.

 

Yeah based on everything I've seen, I'd bet there were dozens of Don Turners out there who for whatever reasons didn't get the same breaks. Maybe it's being in the right place at the right time, maybe it's gift of gab, maybe he had the right contacts and had people vouching for him from the decades he spent at Gleason's, maybe some loved his gruff old-school mystique. Who knows? He's had a great career and none of that takes away from his accomplishments and achievements. But the folks here who are calling him a great trainer because of his resume still haven't offered any direct evidence re: the value he's added to his fighters' careers or the keenness of his boxing mind, etc.

 

Props have go to be given to Turner and his absolutely perfect fight plan for Holyfield - Tyson i must say. It was something one would expect of Eddie Futch.

 

Indeed!

https://www.google.com/search?ei=gd......0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..5.0.0....0.rYDLoBguUVI

 

Rivero trained Canto, didn't he? Would make sense if he did, because Oscar was certainly defending well and not making very many (if any) mistakes under his watch. I do wonder how DHL would have continued to fare under his tutelage. That said, he was still close to Alcanzar at that point, was he not? If so, would you know of any friction that might have led to Rivero's dismissal?

 

Nah, the plan i am talking about was all Turners.

 

No you provided unsupported statements and,when asked to show the provenance for them you failed to do so.

 

And,that is all any of us are asking for, but that apparently is accusatory and agenda driven.

 

This one?

"Said Don Turner, Holyfield's trainer, of the game plan against Tyson: "All you've got to do is swing and you beat him."

In all seriousness, did Turner actually devise a game plan for Holyfield in that fight, or did Holyfield fight Tyson the way he'd planned since the 80s?

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/11/11/sports/here-is-why-holyfield-was-not-afraid-of-tyson.html

 

It rather makes you wonder who actually devised the strategy .I know I thought Tyson would beat Holyfield.

 

This article credits Turner with telling Holyfield to hit Tyson when Tyson's feet were squared and he was off balance:
http://www.nytimes.com/1996/11/11/sports/the-bully-gets-bullied-and-the-underdog-reigns.html

But Don Turner, Holyfield's trainer, had a theory.

''I had a tape of Tyson on the screen and I stared at it for two hours,'' Turner said in the flush of victory. ''When Tyson throws a punch, his feet are square. He's not balanced. So we told Evander to push him back. And if you can get your punch in, you knock him backwards.''